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Lord of the Rings: A Conversation With Five-Time Super Bowl Champion Tom Brady

Jim Gray
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Welcome to mic'd up with Jim Gray in conversation with Tom Brady. Thank you. Guys are you doing? IQ Downey hi guys, how you doing? First off. I want to thank Mike Milken for once again having a Seer to the global conference. I've been coming since the very beginning and gets better and better every year and he's doing wonderful things and Well on his way to helping cure cancer and education and so forth. So we thank Mike Milken. It's my honor to be here with who I consider and many consider

something that he hates to be. How old is hey Siri? So cover your ears at the greatest quarterback in football player in the history of the National Football League. You're right. I do hate that why. Well, I think that's never something. I've really aspired to be. I don't have you know much of an attachment to that in my belief system of us should try to be the best I could be. So, you know, it's been a long process to get to this point and I've never made comparisons. I had Idols that. I looked

up to sports Idols when I was young and I know kids are looking up soon to me in the same way. So it's just pretty heavy for me to think about things like that. I still feel like, you know, I'm trying to do the best I can do I got to show up. I got to put the work in every day and it means so much to me. You know, I want my teammates to feel the same way that I'm as invested today as I was when I first started numbers, don't lie. We got five of them. No one else has five. Leader of the team is the quarterback. So when you hear it, I know you want to have selected say it's a

team game and it truly is the organization in the coaching staff might you be more accepting of that moniker if you were finished. No. It's it's you know Sports, you know, certainly in my journey, you know, how I feel like I brought to the table to our team what we needed at the right time and I was been surrounded by so many great players great coaches a great organization great ownership and it's just we're all trying to look for that in our life puts, you know, put you in a position where you could be surrounded people that bring out the best in you. So how can you look at as

an individual when you got so many other people that's there to support you and and take you no more credit than whatever 170th of what you know, the the, you know, you as an individual are in inflation to the team. So I just I left team sports. I love being able to share it with so many people. You know, that's that's the greatest fulfillment for me that you asked you when you go hug all the guys that you've done it with cuz you know, you're climbing mountains, you're climbing mountains every week and every year and every season and they're climbing with different people and it's hard to

get to the top and it's every bit of energy you have is every bit of determination you have and you know two years ago and ended the perfect away and Ice your kind of sucks. But you know that Sports so as we get started here, let me ask you a question. Are we going to be cliche written and mamby-pamby bulshit or we going to light it up? You're used to doing boxes all the time. They can light them up. I am and I'm used to doing football players to I know I know we have a show. I hope you all can listen to this will be our 10th season.

We'd like to thank Macy's and Landry's Mortensen Mastro's a Tilman Fertitta who I think is out here today are great sponsor, but I think we're going to light them up today. Yeah, you know, I I think keeping it real and Avion centek is the best way so hopefully you guys enjoy it. So if you're recovered then from the Super Bowl And the lost yeah, that's got you start with that one. You just said it sucks. So yeah, I think you know part of it is going to be my 19 season of

coming and you know, when you're young you don't have the perspective on you know your career and I certainly didn't we are and I played you know, the Patriots my entire career won 3 superbowls before I was I was 26 years old do with all the success and I was like, what is you know, this is my life has changed so much in a long. Of time without winning the Super Bowl cuz it's hard to do and then we wanted 2014 and you know, there was so much appreciation cuz that experience so many adversities, you know in my career in different ways. So because I have that perspective after

this season, you know, I finished the game. Did the interviews after with the press and then was walking to locker and I have my wife there and I had my three kids and my daughter was five. My son who my middle son is 8 they were crying, you know, and then I'm like, I'm the one that I can't be crying. So, you know, I saw him and I give him a big hug. I said guys this is sports. Daddy doesn't always win. You know, Daddy doesn't always win. You try the best you can try and sometimes it doesn't go the way that you wanted to but that doesn't discourage you from trying again and You know my

oldest son. He was you know, you said that you did your best and I looked at him I said, you know, it was a good moment for a father. So I think the point is is you know, those things have changed me in my life. I've evolved I've grown so much since I started and you know just based on the circumstances of my life and I can deal with them better than I have in the past where it was really the only thing and it's not that it's not an important thing. It's just there's a lot of other important things in my life, especially, you know my family and you know my kids and teaching them a

lesson that I hope that they'll learn just from watching me do something. I love to do. So you've won five Super Bowls and you've not lost 3 to think more about the victories and the time on the championship pedestal, or do you spend more time thinking about David Tyree or Mario Manningham or the end of the game against the Eagles weather? I think it's a competitor, you know you when you win it's it's amazing feeling. It's you reach the top, you know you year in this competitive sport you sacrifice year-round and NFL obviously extremely competitive.

It's the most you know intense, you know, five months of my life, you know going through those season. So, you know you it's hard to judge the whole season by one game, you know, and it's by one player one series, you know, it's all about that the season of the journey and the commitment that you made so, you know you would I rather of course I want to win that's why I'm playing I'm playing to win but I'm also playing to get the most out of myself, you know, because that's you know of a very fortunate son that I love so much as my career. So I give everything I can in and you know when

they make those incredible plays, you know, I give him credit man good for them. It sucks but you know cuz cuz they did it, you know, and it's the great thing about sports is there's a scoreboard, you know that at the end of the game you can figure out who won and who lost and fell out of their careers in life that are difficult, you know where you know valuated on a on a weekly basis on a yearly basis. What do you win the last game that we said such high expectations for our team that unless you win the last game. It's a it's a failed season. You know what you do feel like that

in a way, but I'd much rather have it that way then, you know to try to be a Nate or 2 and 14 or you know someone of those teams All those things that you happen to love right? I loved one is good. Which ones are the only team I played for okay. I gave up on the 49ers meeting. That was your first love Factor. Don't give a you know, what about the 49ers play? What all of you want to know, you can moan and groan all you want they want to know the answer to that. Well, I don't make you know, I don't make the

decisions mamby-pamby tell you the truth that you know, we I wish you would have played but you know the coach decided not to play him and you know, we start a chance to win. How do I look at that? I fell why he didn't play them to be a major but haven't I haven't, you know, I forgot to discuss those things. Do you know why he didn't play you like to tell me I don't have access that you just did what I don't ask. So I do believe that the fans deserve an explanation the guy played 98% of the plays during the season and then all the sudden he's standing there crying

during the national anthem Harrison play If you believe the people who pay for the game hoop watch the game who've invested their time and money should have an explanation. To the fans, correct? Well, I don't know if that's that's probably better question for the guy who owns are you know, I think that you know, you don't make all the decisions, you know, I can control what I can control. You know, I so much of what my performance has been over the years is how do I maximize what I can do, you know, I can't you know, I can't run I can't catch I

can't block I can't talk like an do my job and I'm to do it the best way I can I got to trust everyone else to do the same thing and sometimes it works out and you know, if our team it's worked out better than every other team for, you know a long time. So, how do you knit pick one or two things or you know, everyone's trying in my belief to do the best thing? It just doesn't always work out, you know, and You know, I love that particular player Malcolm. I have a great relationship in history with him and you know, he's moved on to his light fuse on a different team. Then you gave a

truck didn't you? I did what he was Malcolm was a young player in heat and made the play When the greatest plays in history of any Super Bowl and you know, they always complain about you know, why didn't the Seahawks and the ball off and a 2014 season and I said that was a great it takes away from how credible that play was. There's a few players in the history of the game that could have made the play that Malcolm did so I'm like Malkin have my truck whatever you want for the rest your life. Good. I said you got me a ring, baby. I don't care which I did like, whatever you want.

I got you for your whole life. So you noticed that too. But you said you would have liked to seen him play. Yeah, I did. I did, you know ya obviously wants to win the Super Bowl players to you know, the thing I'll say this the first record for team. This is a note this side of the room is the offense and this size room is a defense. We don't interfere with that much. I didn't know Malcolm kept coming over me the games that come on. Let's go, you know and I kept going with defense on the field. Are we is it like the line and then after the game I found out so I

just didn't know and I asked Malcolm in Malcolm said on the coaches just decided something different and I said, okay, so I don't know what was a part of that decision making but yeah, I know we are trying to win the game. I don't think we are trying to win him, but when it and it's unfortunately lost but give the Eagles a great deal of credit. They deserved it and will be back next year trying to kick their butt. Next year you said in our Westwood one interview? You will definitely see me playing next season 2018-2019. There's been a tremendous amount of speculation

confusion that you're not going to play this season. You did not show up for the voluntary workouts. Even though you're voluntarily working out on your own. Yeah. Are you going to play 2018 has anything changed from that interview that we did on Superbowl Sunday know, you know, you know, I'm going to not be yes playing know I'm going to be playing yes or yes. I'm going to be playing cuz I want to keep playing, you know, I've said for a long time ago in a plate in my mid-forties, you know, what I was told three years ago 38 I was when I was 36 37 now

you can't keep playing like you can't know. Win Super Bowls like John Elway. He wants to go I think 3738 like you know, why? Why would you keep playing you not going to the Superbowl? And you know, that's a great challenge for me. I think I've been challenged my whole life and I feel like I can do what I feel like a lot of things. I've learned over the years and terms of the evolution of my routine and how efficient I am and I can keep doing it cuz I love to do it. I'm willing to make the commitment to doing it and I have a great plan. I have a great, you know system in place. That

works well for me in order to keep me performing at my highest level so, you know, I want to keep doing you know, the things that I love to talk about outside of sports cuz I think you're grown in different ways is know how do athletes how do people you know in every career, you know, maximize their for their potential and how can you if you commit to the right things be the best you can because that's what I feel like I've learned I've used know the things that I've learned in football and trying to educate not only athletes but other people, you know, how can you feel your vest? How can you

be your best? You know and that's part of the you know, second career my life but I do what I want to do in the meantime is I want to inspire people through my actions. You know tell him what to do, but just show it and I think part of you know, I did a docu-series last year that you know was alluded to hear is to just show a little more insight into my life and you're right for all of us, you know, you reach a certain point you're like you give everything you have it's the biggest commitment and you don't lecture want to make that commitment, you know for me. It's I was very blessed with

those things. I want to make the commitment. I love working hard and you know, I want to continue to do it for as long as I can to inspire other people who don't think they can do it or people that weren't told that they could do it where they were 22 or there were 16 or whether 40 that they can do it, too. So it's clear up a few things. Then that have happened since you've just read the clear that you're playing at in Tom vs time, which is an excellent series and everybody should go to Facebook watching and check it out. If you haven't seen it. It's not too late. And

the terrific director great director Gotham Chopra is here with us today and Ben Roberts who works with Tom who put the whole thing together. But in the final episode you asked a couple of questions of yourself. Why do we do this? Who are we doing this for? And what are we trying to accomplish and I'm paraphrasing it. So if you answered those questions, since you asked yourself those questions yet in your docu-series, I think for me it's you know, I'm obviously still thinking about those things every year of have a chance to evaluate. You know, how things went for the season. I think part

of this offseason for me, you know, it is more is certainly about still preparing for what's ahead in my next Journey my next mountain to climb with this group of teammates, but it's also, you know, a lot of people are getting the short end of the stick in my life like my, you know, shortly my wife and my kids and I told them even before the season ended, you know, Football is year-round for me. You know, it's a lot of thought it's a lot of energy and emotion and put into a but I need to invest in them to you know, my kid's ten 8 and 5 and they're not getting younger. So I need to take

time, you know, so I could be available to them too. And I think being a good dad. I had the best dad in the world. I want to be the best at to my kids. So I can't use football as an excuse and work as an excuse always to you know, allow them just to your not get the time they need cuz I can look back and then go Dad you weren't there for me. You weren't at that. You drive me to school. You didn't do this, you know and the model I had as a father was he was there for all the things that I'm not there for all the things I can't because I'm there for a lot of other people when the time is,

you know, Every Sunday for the last 25 years. I've been playing in the fall and winter and you know, I need these opportunities to invest in my kids to and my wife to it so I can be available to them. So I really spent the last two or three months doing those things and I think I'm really trying to fill my tank up so that when I do go back, you know, I can go back and I think I should beat you in my mind a better player better teammate because you know, I'll be really rejuvenate in the fact. I want to be there still doing the work with them. This is still very enjoyable to me. And your wife

Giselle, who will join us later this afternoon in a session with you asked a very interesting question and made a very interesting statement as well in the final installment of Tom vs time. She said I just want my husband to be happy and to feel appreciated. Are you happy? I Had My Moments I do are you happy with the people you work with and for I would say absolutely in in in general, you know, I'm a very happy person. I'm very positive person. It's just my personality. I always look at things as you know, the glass is half-full. And yeah, I mean, I

think there's different times and we've been on the same team for a long time. You had a relationship for a long time then you know what happened flow like every relationship but there's no people I'd rather play for be committed to than the team that I've been with for a long time and really the fans are Community. I mean, I grew up in Northern California's biggest 49er fan it when I got drafted by the Patriots and they called and they're like Thomas New England Patriots are going to draft you and I was like unbelievable. Thank you and I got to go. Where is New England? I had no idea

and spent the same amount of time in my life there now than I did Growing Up a tour the California is a different issue. Parents and my family the kids were born in Boston and it's because you know, it's my life. So it's a great Sports town. It's you know, incredible to be there for form for them. And you know again, I'm glad I still have the option to continue to do it and obviously in any relationship particularly one that's been successful and and had such a long run for whether it's a friendship. A marriage a working environment. There's going to have

Peaks and valleys. And so when Giselle says feel appreciated this brings to mind coach Belichick and that the craft. Do you feel appreciated by them and do they have the appropriate gratitude for what you have achieved? I plead the fifth your wife your wife seems to alienate. I think everybody in general wants to be appreciated more at work, you know in their professional life, but there's a lot of people that are you appreciate me more than you know way more than I ever thought, you know, it was possible as part of my life. So so you

can take it from them. The people that I work with are trying to get the best out of me. So they're trying to treat me in a way that they feel is going to get the best out of me and you know, I got to get the best out of myself. I think what I'm learning as you get older is it comes from within the joy the happiness little things come from inside and you know to seek that from others this eat that from outside influences of people you work with people that you're against you at your with you or you know, I feel I feel like it comes from within for me. So I'm

trying to build What's what's within me so that I can be the best for me so that I can be the best for other people and that's you know, part of his growing as you know, I'm learning these things to is his not. You know, I don't feel like I was the one you know as they talked about for a long time. I don't feel like I was the chosen one, you know, I was like late developer. I mean you wouldn't you saw me in high school you like. There's no way that guy is playing, you know flag football recess and it's it's still

you know, it's it's been so many so much growth over again. I've been supported by so many people I've learned so much and you know, I want to continue to do cuz I can and then beyond that I want to teach other people what I've learned and see if that can Inspire them. We gotten past mamby-pamby. This is you're keeping it real everybody appreciates that you would also stated and so I guess we need a reaffirmation or a reconfirmation you want to keep doing this through your mid-forties. Yeah. I do I've talked to years with my wife. I've negotiated

that this far. I mean, I have a great wife and great partner in life. And she's a mom and she sees me and she wants to protect me and footballs have violent sport. I mean guys use everyday is I'm tired cuz this and that you see people injured, you know, she has two boys. So she's doesn't want those boys to get injured play football is hard for them to talk to my parents to sit there and watch me, you know, take hits and then when I tell him I come home and I said look at you know, I

got hit in the head or I got you know broke this sort or this and that's hard for people that love you to go ahead. Keep doing it, you know about their looks Roswell turn on it and get back out there and play so I think of things She's like, you know look picture. You're in great health take you take care of yourself. I said I take care of myself than anybody. You know, like I feel like I do so, you know, she's very supportive in and you know again mid-forties would be my goal as long as I'm still playing at a very high level and that requires a lot of effort and that's the effort I want to

put into it how hard is it for your family and your friends? You just went into it a little bit but but your parents as well to have seen you achieved this great success yet on Sunday afternoon. So, you know, they've got to turn away and cringe, you know, because here's their little boy. Yeah, they're only boy. I know, you know, sometimes getting crushed and the toll it takes on them. Yeah, it's hot it's hard. I think it's hard for parents in these Sports to watch their kids. You know, like I said, you're in those car crashes in a way and You know,

I sympathize with them a lot, you know, and it was Instinct of this year like when Gotham was filmed been in the docu-series we did he was up there and sweet a lot, you know, and that's I've never met up in this week when I'm playing obviously. Yes. I don't know what people are saying and doing it was very enlightening for me to see you know, the Epson flows and you know, my wife is very positive and stay with my dad my dad in some ways. It's like, you know, we we we go ahead and my does like yes and then we behind he's like we're going to lose,

you know, and it's just part of you know, that's you can feel the you know, they're not in control if they're watching, you know, when you're a spectator you can't control the action on the field, but we can so I don't have any nerves when I'm out there but certainly have one of those days watching does have them and they have to win but I think the good outweighs the bad for them to And he's a wonderful man. Your dad's an aggressive guy don't Belichick is a fascinating man. He really is

he is consumed with professional football. That's fascinating you listening to me. OK fascinating to me and he's respectful to me and I really believe the man's a Football Genius describing. What's it like to be around him? He's very respectful of me to you know, I think the keys we can tell ya we've had a great relationship is very respectful relationship for a long time. And you know, I feel like he's the best coach in history of the NFL, you know, when he has a management style of players and it's your he would say that going to look I'm not

the easiest coach to play for and I agree with you, but you know, he's the best for me and I think what he's proven is that whatever Talent he has you maximize has talent. I mean, what more could you ask of you know some a coach than that? That's what I want is a player. You know, when I know I'm sitting in there. I don't want to coach. I just want to play you know, when you need the coaches to do their job. They need to coaches to do their best and That's what you expect. That's what you want. They want me to do my best. I want them to do their best, you know, I can't do their job. They

can't do mine. Then it all works at all comes together and it's a hard. It's a hard journey over the course of the season and them but it's incredibly fulfilling or else I wouldn't be continuing to do I wouldn't be continuing to want to play so, you know, he's using a credible coach been incredible mental form. He's taught me so much football. Like I said be a 22 year old kitten to come and learn from him. I mean, I wouldn't be sitting here without you know, his coaching. I wouldn't have to success without how incredibly talented he was along with a lot of the other coaches lot of the

other players. Why do the other people in the organization cuz it takes everybody to do it everybody the guys who are you know, cleaning the locker Matchbox it takes them too and you better have respect and appreciation for them because I'm not the one doing that job, but we all expect that the job needs to get done. So, you know, that's part of being a great culture and its part about you know for us continued success on our team and everyone is Amber continue to success in their business and you know that culturally sets the tone for everybody. You said something really

interesting to me. You said it's very difficult to be critical of yourself and those around you when you're winning all these games and you've also said, you know, we're not trying to be perfect. We're just trying to win the game. Here's a guy in coach Belichick who's constantly critical of everybody and has results. So there is a method to this madness because perhaps by your own assessment. It's impossible to look at yourself because you look at the scoreboard is that part of the factor that goes into this whole equation and and why sometimes

there can be tension, I think he's he tries to balance out what he's the external forces and no for a long time. We've been the team everyone favors all you know, you guys are whatever the favorites to win this since, you know, especially, you know, the the media that we're surrounded a lot of questions, you know, why play regular season to get to the playoffs in August and you're like we even had a practice yet, you know, if there's a lot that goes into it and I don't think we can just mail it in expect those things to happen. So in 2007, you know, I believe we had you know One of

the greatest football teams ever to play an ATM and then we lost the Giants in the Super Bowl and over the course that sees and we were blowing teams out and every Monday we would come in after the game and Coach Belichick would be we didn't we sucked on defense, you know, we can't cover a Kik but not worth 4 of 8 on third down and what a joke out of the meeting and we stay humble pie was served and we made and we had how to make the Humble Pie on the back of the t-shirt and it was just, you know, it's a very

grounding Force for all of us cuz if you do listen to your wife or girlfriend of your family, they're not giving you the truth and they don't know why you're winner losing but you know, you need people to critically evaluate why do good things or bad things are happening in even when you win you're not doing everything perfect. When you lose your not doing nothing wrong, and there's always you know, the middle ground in the scoreboard great. That's what we're trying to do. But you know, you're always coaching for the next game to so I know that's what that's what we need. That's why I

think we've had you know, this this great run a 6S you get that from your friends to get that from outside people or a lot of people we see who have tremendous success have yes men around them. Yes women and they're only giving them confirmation of what it is that they think the guy person wants to hear. Do you have those people in your life who will tell you the truth? Even if even if it hurts and then they don't get banished. Yeah, absolutely. I think that you know. Yvonne conditional love with your family parents sister's been in my wife. She keeps it real with me.

I don't think I can never stray too far from you know, where you know, she thinks we need to go and you know for all of us when you get married it's a lot of family decisions that you're making and and then I have a lot of friends or just you know, my friends they love me and support me and they continue to support me as I'm going through life. Like we all are you know that we're at we're all dealing with different challenges at different times in our life. And you know, I for me to have a great Foundation of people that love me and care about me support me if that's the only reason why

they would have continued to do it, you know, cuz it's just it would be impossible not to have the other people has fished you and you know pursuing your dreams and I'd still pursuing my dreams and I'm You know, it's just I love that. If the fact that I have those people around me to get this for me. Do you love football more? The same or less than you did when you first came into the week. You know, it's more for me because I've learned more and and I think a lot of great athletes, you know, you know like Kobe Bryant and then I look up athletes to you know, Kobe Bryant's

when my favorite players Michael Jordan's one of my favorite players me talk about love for the game. You can see it in their eyes see you in the competition and you see it every night, you know everyday practice and you know, there's boxers that I've Loved there's baseball players that I've Loved there's football players that I love and I appreciate the guys that love it in the way that I love it, you know, it's you know, it's definitely been the first love of my life and you know continues to be in a right there and you know enough for me willing to make you know, the decision to

continue to play so what is it? What is it then that would motivate you at this point. Is it more wins More Money More Thrills and our titles. More internal satisfaction. Can you pinpoint what exactly motivates you visit your age and you want to say told you I could do this at 44th and 143 56. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh blue baby equipment the head of our equipment room. His name is John Faulk. He always told me and he want a lot of Big Ten championships at the time. I was 18 or 19 and you always say brady. You know what your ring is my favorite

one and I said which one did Johnny and he say the next one the next one and for me? It's the next one it is. Would there be a number? What you would say? Well that's enough or is it just an insatiable appetite? Well, next one. Is there ever going to be a next one that has the biggest diamond looks good. That's enough already. Yeah, it's not what the what would be the appetite that would say, I'm full. Yeah, that's when I know that I can't contribute

in the way that my team needs me to contribute and I'm trying we're not trying to go eight and eight, you know, we're trying to win the Superbowl when you're trying to win the Super Bowl is a championship-level the effort to championship-level commitment that it takes and I've got to be willing to give that and I still want to do it and I'm still committed to that and I think I can still do it. So in that case I go out there and do it again. What are you attribute the decline in the numbers of people viewing National Football League games? You have the highest

number of jersey sold most apparel for two out of the last three years including this year. So you're the most popular player in the National Football League and you are the face of the game. Why do you think that there has been the sarojin in ratings, correct? There's so much for us to consume. I mean not as we all know, I mean, it's just There's so much happening. There's the amount for you know that I'm doing it, you know, I don't follow. I mean, I don't follow it like I used to because so many other things to follow and it's just what can grab your

attention and there's a lot more competition today than there's ever been I think, you know specially with social media for people to consume information or to consume content and the NFL has a great product, you know, people love watching the game. I think it's still doing better than I would say every other program out there but compared to a time where there was less things to do, you know, it's it doesn't live up to those standards, but I don't notice that other than maybe people saying television ratings, but you know, I feel like still people that I'm around or still

is intense about it as ever and you know, I think they're NFL's got to do a great job will continue in the building, you know, building a mountain built, you know, obviously having a great relationship with the players is important and how can the players, you know create a better product. How can the coach create a better product so that gate that the leak and continue to build a great business kneeling for the national anthem and the attention that the president brought to that and Colin Kaepernick not having a job now in the National Football League is cited by many of the survey

as a contributing factor you and your Patriots held several meetings with the players and and decided how to come up with a formula to do deal with that issue of what are your feelings on that and take us through with the with the team went through during the season of great conversations we had Add a chance to have in our locker rooms in our meeting rooms, you know, I have a lot of friends that I played with and everyone's from different backgrounds. Everyone's from different parts of the country.

Everyone has different stories and you got to have respect for everybody, you know, you got to respect for everybody's opinion and you know, the way that they you don't want to present themselves enough to me that they have to you don't make a difference. I mean again, we all have an opportunity to make a difference in our own way and people are going to use those opportunities how they see fit and you got to have respect for them and you like they got to have respect for you and I think part of having conversations to understand why people are doing what they're doing and Sports for me has

been the most unifying part of my life. I mean we I have like I said, I go to different countries. I played you know with people from all over the country eats the most brings us together and we shouldn't forget that we're being brought together to do some is very pure to do something at various pain and people are you know what they want to show up and they want to watch us do something great and we should never let you know never forget that where you know, we are play football. I know we're not curing cancer but we do provide in my view great entertainment for people from now. They work

so hard all week long Monday through Friday and it's tough jobs in tough relationships and I want to get to the weekend and won't sit down with your friend and socialize, you know, when they want it have a great, you know this experience it take them away from how hard Our Lives can be at times and I think for us I always tell our guys, come on. Let's go put on a show. That's what we're here for. You know what they want to do you spit or bet you want to walk out of a movie ago, man, that movie sucks the waste of time and I feel like for me when you're out there you're onstage or perform and go

do a great job and go show people in in, you know their May Any investment of us, let's go get back to them. And you know, I think we've done a great job of bringing Joy people's life. How do you handle such a public life that everything is is subject to a microscope in and every time you walk out the 24/7. Somebody may have a phone to take a picture or recording your movements or riding on social media lot of it becomes out much of it can be an assessment that you haven't made but is attributed to you. How do you

just deal with your wife is a terrific supermodel and a worldwide icon and ear in this country. You're so popular is the best player in the face of the NFL. How do you deal with this? 24/7 on flat? I'd say it's if it's on It's tough. I think it's tough. I think people have their there's no downtime. I think when you're in public, you know, it's you got understand that everyone's watching all the time, and it's instantaneous in. Working out past the twenty-two-year-old Tom Brady and you know, like I had some fun times in there that the

case I always tell the guys now McMahon that sucks for you guys, you know everything you do, you know is you know, but when I was young, you know, I had that it wasn't like this and I think now I'm very happy. I married with three kids. So it's a little bit easier. I do a little bit. I just say guys like just know what you're doing. Like don't make it whatever happens like there's things that can be bad but you never want him like permanently bad can make those bad situation cuz you're still young still a kid still in a learning

immature and away and you know, I hope we can influence him in a bit of a positive way. But, you know, you can make bad choices anyway really bad choices. So I just say don't make a really bad ones and you'll make it through and you know, hopefully you'll you know, you can You'll not do anything to really tear something down there trying to build up. So we're going to spend the next 20 to 25 minutes talking about health and and wellness and how you've been able to at 40 years of age continue in the National Football League. You've only sustained really one major injury in

your career. And that was to your knee back in 2008 cost you to miss the season after the first series against the Chiefs and the Thomas written this book. It's a terrific book gets a New York Times bestseller the tb12 method how to achieve a lifetime of sustained Peak Performance written by Tom. What's the message of this book? And why did you decide to write it? Well, it was it was good timing for me. I think a lot of people, you know see me as a older athlete and it's a lot of question I get from the athletes in general

are tell me what do you do? You know, like what what are you doing that? I'm not doing. What can I apply in my life that you're doing in most of the time? It's just been through my actions you and last offseason. I really thought you know what I really should begin to think about, you know, putting these thoughts down and Inns giving me information what good is having information. If you're not giving you information to, you know, the next generation of you know athletes the next generation of kids and then cuz why the kids that are like coming in the NFL now they're like me on Big Time

radio fan. I'm doing all the things he's doing and I think that gives me a lot of joy, you know, because you're not that they want to be like me. It's like they want to work hard. They want to do the right thing and athletes in general people in general. They want to do the right thing with their you know, he'll their bodies that's just so much information out there. There's so many things to Sidon, you know a lot of the information one week. It's good the next week bad, it's good. It's bad. You don't know you get so confused. So you're never able to make real changes and kneel for me to perform

at a very high level, you know, every weekend as I've gotten older it requires, you know, a lot of discipline and a lot of commitment work ethic. Those are three things that a very important but it requires doing the right things. If you're doing the wrong thing you're working hard at getting worse. If you do the right thing cigars work hard to getting better and overtime. I've kind of refine the things that I've done to play the sport. I love to play to live the life. I want to live without being in pain, you know, your professional athlete and you know your play football

in all these movies are coming out concussion and you see your Idols with back surgery and knee surgery than hip surgeries and they're not living the life that they want to live in, you know, from what I learned and what I've applied. I don't I don't want to go through those things. I still loved it. You know play sports. I love to be active. I love I have these goals in my life. I want to cheat even how do I do those things? Well, you know, I wanted it you don't have that for every one to two. Right here to 185 pages right there, but I think

so much of it is when you read it. If you get a chance to you know, it you'll go man has common sense and it's like yeah, why don't we think of our bodies is just common sense. You know, what you put into it is what you get out of it, you know the kind of work you're doing what's most appropriate for your life. I know what I need to do to be a professional athlete your what are you guys need to do work in a year careers. Are your jobs are traveling on planes and how do you feel a little bit better? How can you change behavioral things are smaller things in your life that you

can feel better? I think that's a great. You know, I would say purpose for me as I you know, continue to move forward and I thought this was a good first step for me cuz I was able to really articulated and the simple way to say, you know, these are the changes you can make any don't do them all at once but all the little things out up, you know, and I dinner with our friend last night and she was like, oh my God, I asked a woman to know the chef like Cuz she was like,

you know what you don't need anything I said I do I do I do. I mean, I don't know how they do, you know add up if you can for both to show it's okay to say. What you can say who you had dinner with? Really? Yeah, I found something with Oprah Super Soul Sunday on Father's day, which is great. And I love her and I love the show and it was funny cuz she said you know, what do you eat as I eat everything. I just, you know, I don't need a lot of bad stuff but mostly good stuff and you know, she's served a great dinner. So Well, I'd like the follow-up to

Oprah's thinking avocado ice cream. Really? Yeah, it's in there. Really? Yeah. Avocado ice cream. Couple of a red X book, it's great choices that you got to make and you can't do bad stuff. All you can eat that stuff. You can't think bad thoughts all the time, you know it without having you know this response in your body that is going to be what you want to be. So I think of it, you know, it's pretty simple It's You No Limit inflammation in your body to me was Diet nutrition your thoughts, you know information is a

problem and be functionally strong to whatever you want to do in your life. You want to see if you want to golf be strong and those are is I think in professional sports are example that when I was growing up everything was like, let's like you was getting away from us lift as much as we can and you know, they're all that, you know, heavyweights, you know, cause me a lot of pain and I had to step out of that and say why am I doing that? You know, it's because I was taught when I was 14 is what I need to do and then I went to college this is what I need to do and now I still got to do it but you

know, that wasn't working for me I said, okay, how can I think about strength train? Differently and then what do I need to do to recover quickly, you know for the next game and all those things are spelled out in the book and you know, I've learned a lot through guys that I work with a gyroscope out of the business with me who's a great friend of mine and sweet, you know, where we are, you know teach other people how to do those things and I want to do that on a much bigger scale. I want to influence everybody whether you're sitting in this room or no people may be watching but that's really

what I love to do outside of for meal planning. I love preparing and I love no sharing information. And when you're done playing is this what you would like to teach it particularly to the youth in America and around the world, I would I would cuz I think Sports could be so much better if guys felt good all the time. I mean when I go on the field, I don't want to be hurting, you know, I want to feel good so I can feel free. My mind can feel free. No one wants to do anything if they're hurting right if you think old man going for a 5 Mile Run is going to kill me. You're not going to do it,

you know, but if you can feel good, you know, I think you would be willing to be active you're willing. You know do the things you want to do in your life. And if you don't want to do you want to do them, it's your it's your life. But so many people to me they want to work. They want to get better. They want to feel better. They just don't know what to do and they've been told by someone or someone at some time that something that maybe you know wrong and you again if you work hard the wrong thing, it doesn't work out well. But you said on numerous occasions the playing in the National

Football League is a 100% interest rate. So when you say you don't want to feel bad, I mean, you've got guys who literally every play are trying to inflict pain so that you are not at your best. Okay, that's more pain to that's kind of messed up for me so I can hop a table with me hit that guy. smart no brain damage here is going to feel about that. But when you know that that's the game plan and and there is that 100% rate you're used to dealing with

being hurt. So, how does this help you? Deal with it and hurt unless I guess it is what it is. I got this this contribute to that. Yeah, or is it just the hands of Alex Guerrero that are that are so magnificent. Yeah. Well, I think the part of it is this is how it all started when I was 26. I said we had been successful won Super Bowls and as a quarterback, you know, what's being always joked with the guy I worked outside. So come get the money maker. You know, what's my right arm and my right elbow is always hurting so I'm a quarterback and I love football, but I have pain every day

and I was going to the you know to the training room and I'd say I got arm pain and they say, okay we're going to ace it. I'm going to rest it and you know where to see how he feels tomorrow and I'm one of my teammates who groped actually hear Willie McGinest. He's a great player for a team. He's like Tommy you got to go like if your arm is hurting it's not going to get better and go work, you know with Alex nice. Okay, finally, I did it and I Basically, what would happen was in order all the training through all the actions through all the muscle contractions? These muscles in my arm my

forearm bye-bye set my tricep they get tight and they get too short and they get dance and they get stiff and I'm asking him to my arm to be very fluid and all the shortening of the muscles, you know, create more tension on the ligaments are trying to hold the muscles to the joints. So the thought was what if we can lengthen the muscles and soften the muscles, there's no tension on the elbow joint, you know, if there's no tendonitis, there's no which is what I had and we can reduce the tendonitis if we just like them soft in the muscles and after 3 days, I didn't have any arm pain

and I was like, wow that's amazing that makes a lot of sense lengthen soften. So there's no tension you move the attention you move the pain and I can still be functioning strong to do my job and you to solve that liability and I said, what can you do that on my right knee, right. He's a little sore to do you like absolutely so lengthening soften Lincoln soften no stress on my joints. So, you know fast forward 14 years later. That's so much of the routine at so much we talked about in the Docu-series that people don't incorporate into their workouts. We want to work out we want it basically

muscle contractions. You want to shorten dance and stiff and all of our muscles and then we want to get up and move into things and we can't because their muscles are short Denton stiff and they're dehydrated and there's a lot information because of our thoughts and our nutrition. So, how can you change that? How can you eat a little bit better? I'll give you the more hydrated then halfway to work out. So don't do those things so that when you're older, you don't need you know, that really difficult surgeries that you have to come back from her knee surgery for hip surgery so suck and I

think for me I never wanted to be that so I made a commitment that I'm going to do those things in advance of getting injured. I don't want to get injured if I get injured I don't get the play. So what can I do in advance so that my body can be Prayin for the contact information all my muscles are very healthy, but they're all pliable in order to absorb the forces and disperse the forces that hit me, you know, so I try to keep that to each other. You know when they experience a go yet, why am I not doing this? But it just wasn't we didn't work at a young age. And when you're younger

you're so conditioned to do these other things are strong and are they should have man is the ultimate shrink keep more weights more weight, which is fine. But if you could do that, you need to incorporate by ability to how difficult is it to change the conventional thinking and to take on really establishment any systemic changes very hard cuz there's so many people that are in it and doing it and the education is already there and their education the next round. But again, how do I what if I felt I want to inspire people by doing it you want I want to be, you know, teaching them a

certain way to get the things they can do in their life that are really going to fly to them and it's little things hits, you know, one thing at a time and when you feel it you can get better at when you get better and you proved it, you know, hopefully can make a difference in your life. So you have tremendous dedication determination and this commitment to Excellence all of us are kind of just like living every day and we have normal average lives and all of us out here aren't getting hit by 350-pound guys and and so forth. How can this apply to all of these folks out here who

want to make changes so don't want to eat poorly who would like to have a few pounds it would like to not have any pain. How does how does this work for them? It works. It works really? Well, I mean I think there's you know, we lay out kind of approach programs and things that you can do and what you can for parade most people know you read a lot of things are going to try that. Well, that's a good place to start, you know, but I think you know nutrition is so important and you know again if you're eating food that's not going to nearest shoe. It's hard to you know for your body to get back

to be very hydrated and again to traveling and drinking a lot of things that you know, you need to be very hydrovac courses that you need to do the right workouts. You need to you know, do the things that you want to do in order to achieve the things you want in your life for me. It's a big commitment. It's a lot of discipline. But again, I'm pushing my body at the limits. So, you know, I've got to treat it, you know in that in that same way. Very hard to change habits. How do you help people with the mental structure in the mental discipline to change those habits

when you're 35, 45 55 65 and you've just gotten locked into this. I think it's like brain exercises that you do as well. And yes, those are just that help place the mental discipline absolutely for me. One thing at a time. It's not, you know, let me change my whole life, you know for me it started with the elbow pain and then it worked into a book. I mean itself, but that's that's the course of 15 years. I think the education needs to take place with the younger generation, you know, I mean, it's easy when you're thirty-five you're not feeling good to go. And now

I need to make some changes that's hard. You know for people when they're young when they're not feeling bad. But again when you're feeling bad, I always say you have a lot of tread on your tire and you start feeling it when all the trades gone, but how can you maintain the tread on your tire for your entire life? And you know, if you Incorporated pliability to workouts right Diet Rite hydration, you know, you really could you know concussions are so much in the news and it head injuries in the National Football League and other sports as well. What do you do to stimulate your brain?

I know that you have but a TV TV 12 website and down and brain headquarters and so forth, But how much time do you spend working out your mind on a daily basis? And what do you do? And are you concerned when you see what happens with CTE and so many others? Play in the National Football League. Yeah, you know as an athlete you have to understand the wrist to a plan and yet you do, you know, it's a contact sport and collisions in a lot of hits to the head and so forth. But again, how can I be proactive about that? How can I build up my brain strength so that when I do take a

hit there's a little bit of armor there. So to speak to be the best way to describe it. So I do brain games in almost daily 5 to 10 minutes a day that just keep me really sharp. If I take a big hit in the game, you know, I go right back to know certain protocols that I have for you no head trauma so to speak so and I feel like they really do work for me and again to describe those two other people. You know, how can you aren't people with that information so that you know that are Sports Therapy Center Boston, we treat a lot of those and I think we have great results. In the National

Football League just announced that their past owners meetings no more. Head contact in other words, you cannot project with your head diving forward. You've been proficient and made a living out of quarterback sneaks. Is that now a legal subject to the interpretation of new rules? I hope not that's about my only rushing stats for the game at a time. Do you know how this is going to play itself out now we are aware of it. Obviously. Yeah, and I thought you were the first one to bring that up to me. So it's it's unavoidable in professional football

for a guy to either die or move forward without his head leading the way I don't know how you know Bill Russell used to sit in the back of the plane. And so did Bob Lanier I asked him. Why is there no play never backed into a mountain. Joke, I don't know how you gained a first down this way when the ball is here. And the first time I was there and I think I think those things ultimately work themselves out. But I think the reality is that people who make the rules they're trying to make the game a bit safer. And you know,

it's it's still a violent game. I mean, it's got to be you got the best athletes in the world at the fastest speeds in a way the most a lot of force, you know, so be proactive about it. That's my belief will put myself In Harm's Way. Let me be proactive about it cuz Yep, that's that's I'm not going to rely on someone else to take care of me. I'm going to take care of me. And they're changing your helmet. Are you allowed to keep your helmet because the commissioner announced last week? Yeah, that's some of the helmets that were in use for all of these years can no longer be used and if

you do get a new helmet will that change because maybe it's a different weight specifications. We have two different comforter, you know, the slightest little things obviously can throw off professional athletes. We're talkin about the blink of an eye and a snap of a finger. Does that concern you and what do you know about that? No, I think that it's a good thing. I think they're trying to find helmets that the players can wear that will create, you know. Absorb more Forest dispersed Force better. So I think that's a positive. I mean, I still wear probably a very old, just out of

habit. Behavioral changes or hard absolutely and I've tried new helmets and it doesn't work out of here. You know, it's I think it's just you got to get comfortable some I can do so, I guess to get another year to just take it one moment at the time. All right, what's the religion of sports? Well, it's a production company, you know, we started myself in Gotham show bruised here in Michael Strahan and just tell me great stories, you know Gotham what is always talk about sports has the new religion,

you know, and how many correlations there are between, you know sporting events in you know, these religious events and it's very cool when you start to think about it and the storytelling around that has been very unique and I think there's a lot more great stories to be told. So I got them and his team do a great job. I think Mike when I provide support where we need to but you know, we got some great, you know, you know some really great projects ahead. Anything we've missed anything else you want to talk about? questions from the audience

we can take two questions. Go ahead. I'll repeat it. Thank you. Thank you. So the question is this man said you're one of two people. We wanted to meet and now he's had that opportunity who are the two or three that have formed you. Well the first theater Tom Brady, yeah. I would say, you know, my dad was you know, the best role model SM could ever have you know, and he again he taught me so much about you working hard for his family and yeah, incredible determination

and humility and love and that's what he was all about. So, I think he's you know would be the first person in my life and thankfully. Yoda have such a great foundation and at that be the one yeah that be the one let's take this lady right here. Thank you. Susan Webb born in Psychology and gerontology professor at UMass Boston down the road from you high huge fan. Obviously, I've written a lot about psychology of sports fans. And I really like for you to reflect the audience. What you do for New England for the city of Boston with your inspiring performances, whatever happens and everybody

watches the fifth quarter. I mean, they just loved every minute of it and are. You just been such an inspiration to our town and an inspiration for aging and so time how long it takes for them to mention your age during a game. It's been under 15 seconds are people who study Aging in your philosophy is really wonderful. So it's kind of a question but also a compliment and and kind of reinforcement for what you do, but You could talk a little bit about how

you feel about aging you're afraid out and how you think your performance at your age. What is it again can help the rest of us and that's again. It's I do feel like I want to help more than just athletes. You know, I do want to help a lot of people in it's just For me, it's it's become so much more. You know, it's just is my lifestyle in a way. It's it's it's never been one thing. I can't say. Hey Tom. What's the one thing cuz there's more than one thing, you know, it's all the little things that really add up and again for me it started with an elbow injury to

understand what I needed to do to make my elbow have healthy and then it was to make my knee healthy and it was to make my system healthy and then it was okay now that I feel healthy, how can I build on it without getting injured, you know, if there's so many injuries or so much, you know in in professional sports and I've had to be proactive in the way that I've really been different than everyone else's through the through the pliability treatments that I do and it's always if I'm going to shorten stiffen through all my contractions and working and running and cutting and throwing and

jumping and skiing and surfing They're they're going to get shorter. I got to lengthen a back out. And if I lengthen it's off and then I can go do it again. And I'm more of my brain understands what I'm asking my body to do the better it gets in the more efficient it becomes so that's where it's I've really made the switch. I mean the brain is, you know, obviously, you know connects everything. So how do we train the brain to train the body and a lot of the treatments are using my brain as well as my body. So that's so much of what is I've been different than I would say a lot of other

athletes who came before me a lot of current athletes and that I'm committing the time Do you know do things that they're not or haven't committed to yet? Cuz I haven't seen the payoff and that's through, you know, the pliability treatments. I want to thank you all for attending today. I think you will be back in September on Westwood one with our radio show and Sean will be back in Camp here shortly. We think the Milken Institute and thanks so much. Appreciate it. Thank you guys.

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