Duration 26:56
16+
Play
Video

Leading Your Company Starting With Your Own Well Being - Justin Kan + Mathilde Collin + Kat Mañalac

Justin Kan
Co-founder & CEO at Atrium LTS
+ 2 speakers
  • Video
  • Table of contents
  • Video
2020 Startup Grind Global Conference
February 11, 2020, Redwood City, CA, USA
2020 Startup Grind Global Conference
Video
Leading Your Company Starting With Your Own Well Being - Justin Kan + Mathilde Collin + Kat Mañalac
Available
In cart
Free
Free
Free
Free
Free
Free
Add to favorites
494
I like 0
I dislike 0
Available
In cart
Free
Free
Free
Free
Free
Free
  • Description
  • Transcript
  • Discussion

About speakers

Justin Kan
Co-founder & CEO at Atrium LTS
Mathilde Collin
Co-founder & CEO at Front
Kat Mañalac
Partner at Y Combinator

Justin Kan is the CEO and co-founder of Atrium, a technology company and corporate law firm providing fast, transparent, and price-predictable business and legal services to startups. As a founder of multiple companies and an investor in hundreds more, Justin involuntarily became a power user of corporate legal services. Justin’s mixed experiences with traditional law firms and billing practices inspired him to reimagine the delivery of legal services with a better client experience as his guide. At Atrium, Justin is chief visionary and leads a team of talented executives in developing a technology platform for legal professionals to meet client needs responsively, and rethinking and refining how services are packaged and priced so that legal spend is clear, transparent, and predictable for client legal budgets. The Atrium corporate law firm employs experienced startup lawyers who are attuned to the needs of Atrium’s client base of emerging companies.Prior to Atrium, Justin was a partner at Y Combinator, the preeminent startup accelerator. Justin was a co-founder of Justin.tv, which became Twitch, the popular video game streaming platform (acquired by Amazon in 2014); Exec, an on-demand errand service (acquired by Handybook in 2014); Socialcam, a mobile app for sharing video (acquired by Autodesk in 2012); and Kiko, the first Ajax web calendar. Justin is a prolific angel investor and mentor to startup founders. He is a graduate of Yale University.

View the profile

Mathilde Collin is the co-founder and CEO of Front, the first shared inbox for teams. Front serves more than 4,000 companies around the world and has raised $79 million in venture funding from investors such as Sequoia Capital, DFJ, and Uncork Capital.Mathilde was recognized in 2017 Forbes 30 Under 30 Enterprise Tech list and 2018 Inc’s 30 Under 30 Rising Star list. She is based in San Francisco and originally from Paris, and earned her Masters in Entrepreneurship from the HEC School of Management in 2012.

View the profile

Kat Manalac was Chief of Staff to Alexis Ohanian, co-founder of reddit, before joining YC as its Director of Outreach. Prior to that, Kat was at WIRED Magazine where she managed brand and strategy. Kat has a BS in Communications from Northwestern University.

View the profile

About the talk

A Panel with Justin Kan, the CEO of Atrium + Mathilde Collin, the Co-founder + CEO of Front + Kat Mañalac, a Partner at Y Combinator talking about How to Lead Your Company Starting with Your Own Well Being.


Share

Hello. All right. So I'm excited to moderate this conversation today. So I'm cat department at Wifey. I'm here with Justin Kahn the CEO and founder of Atrium Emma told Colin who is the CEO and co-founder of front and I'm excited because we are going to talk about founder wellness. And as you heard both of these people have built incredible companies. There are a million topics that they could have talked out about today, but I wanted to know why did you think this topic was something that was important to cover today and for Founders to think about Lighting for me

my storage Journeys, you know, I had it a couple times and the first times were really horrible turn on Waze as I'm sure many people in the audience and resonate with but the last time was like, you know was also really tough time with a trim in and let's start getting me to think about how I could make exchange for myself and my sword Lily diving and dipping into different ways that I could improve my own wellness and I found that made a huge difference in how I show up every day and

someone sure that I wish I was there a specific moment in your life for one of your company's lives where you realize this was something you really wanted to focus on found her Health Center wellness couple years, maybe a year-and-a-half ago is super stressed out again with atriums of knowing the start. There's always a roller coaster model. What's happening where you are how much money you've raised how big your company is always ups and downs. That was kind of in the middle one of those down. Of time and I was like things have got to change, you know, so I started off just

really basic trying to the basic things. Like let me try headspace. I'm seeing if I can get a distressed myself during the day and things like that. If someone gets into this topic of mental health and all they want to talk about it because it's the most important thing for every human being and I think that's what we have in common in terms of like why I started thinking about it and tearing about it is because I had no choice to three years ago. I was maybe I don't know people and one

tells me how can you tell if I have cancer and he was pretty bad and went after that was me trying to do two things at once. I was in San Francisco going to The most people every day and have him go through chemo after chemo start telling him everything is great and telling him from his amazing so that you could have you know happiness from something and then going back to the office and tell you no lies great. Everything is fine and just completely forgetting about myself and after a few months of doing this

I became super mentally and healthy very anxious and I woke up and I couldn't go to work and I didn't enjoy any of the things I was in your life, which was at that point. I have no choice but to protect my mental health and then I tried a lot of different things that hang out but the N states that maybe six months after it's all that started. I was actually we're happier than I was before. He was diagnosed with cancer. And so I started understanding more about myself and about human beings and how there is so much that they can do to be happier that they will never part I

said because when he takes time and discipline into there always more urgency Things to do enter talk a little bit about the process and what are the things that have worked really well for you that, you know people in the audience can take away with them today. So the first I think a misconception is there is just one thing that you will do and all of a sudden you'll feel differently it so it was first things that I tried so I can give you a list one. I started meditating every morning. So I wake up I have a shower and then I meditate for 12 minutes on headspace. Then I started

having a better relationship with my phone. So don't have any notification deleted all my apps from work. So you can use that when I wake up. The first thing I do is not checking my emails. And the first thing I do when the last thing I do before going to bed is not checking my emails either during the weekend when I don't have my computer and networking, which is 2 / husky. I started eating differently. They started having a couch I did hypnosis. I exercise more. Human

being but the fact that I would do that everyday or every week and I would kick them is what led to the rockets and doing it we cover we can just continuing building up a regular routine of things that are healthy habits is really important. I always found myself. I thought of myself as someone who was not a very disciplined and like not able to do things consistently over time. And so, you know, you've done this are doing a lot of the same things that until did maybe a year-and-a-half ago and I found

that it was possible to just like how to build like a habit stack of things that I do every morning like a routine that just like made me feel good every morning, right? So kind of like every morning to write a gratitude Journal workout meditate and just religiously have done it, you know for the last probably 400 days late and I start off with very like low threshold, you know things to do like I was just meditating for like 10 minutes or like my bar for working out of 5 minutes so I can just work out for 5 minutes. Then there's no excuse right? Like you always have five minutes in

the morning and just you know, do whatever 50 push-ups or something like that. And then from there it kind of build up and now I can you know, my morning routine has a couple hours I can I'll spend the time like an hour meditating an hour working out but I didn't have the disk one. At first. I was just doing something that was like a visual and I think it is not the same that work for me in medicine that were for you and you always have to sue Justin came to our company and he was looking at these directions to journal. I said so cool. I'm going to try it and then I saw that it was never

again received in the traditional was never the right time and says that but I said well being grateful grateful and I put in my shower. It is when you shower you don't. Things to do and so it is you're looking at this and your leg again now, I need you to have a shower everyday while now I feel like I'm way happier because you always need to add apps to also your lifestyle, you know, maybe morning doesn't work for you like whatever it is, but just trying to do with as

work for other people like he from you is going to be a failure but just how this is the thing that matters. Do you have any tips for it's so hard to prioritize. How do you make sure that you spend the time doing it? But you have to let me know you have to I guess that a medic and sexual level really understand that if you do these things you'll be more effective for I love you or like I don't have enough time because I have to work this hour or whatever. I have to be spending time with my family and if you still feel that way, I think you

have to come to take a step back and stand and have some faith that if you if you don't invest in yourself, it's going to pay dividends at the back end and usually people come to that window at the breaking point of stress and they're like other kind of lowest points, but I don't know what the Magic Bullet is to change that for all of you. But you know, I hopefully try it and see if iPhone is I always find it sad that you need to have a very unhappy stressful or hard moments in your life to prioritize it because every single person that goes

through this will say well afterwards I was way out here and so I always wonder Lake how could you help everyone here for my taste this because I'm 100% sure that it would be better for all of you, but I think Sing a song for me because what happen is a guy have a super hard woman in my life 3 years ago than I do all these things and then she's very easy to that's weird discipline and forcing functions matters. Like I have no choice like I have to open my computer and I think you should know that you have a tendency to do something or not do something then just be

aware of it an accident because the other things they make you feel that you do something with your friends to hold you accountable, but you have to assume that no matter what is going to be hard. Even if I made out of all your comments that this is the right thing to do. There will always be something and I think I mean, I think you mentioned that to me that you are accidents letter to you maybe being a little bit less discipline, but then It's basically all about creating a way where you play like a like something. I'd like a system where you don't have to use my full power all the

time. Right? So it's easy to have something happen like Zach and I broke both elbows couple months ago in a bike accident and it for the next couple days after that. I was like wallowing in my own sorrow and I didn't work out and I wasn't, you know meditating and I kind of feel like I wasn't working out didn't have any arms, but then I was like, okay. Well, that's just an excuse. I need to get off my ass and let go and do something so, you know, just went back to 5 minutes and I wasn't able to do anything. You know, I just going back to like that 5 minutes and getting back on that

habit. I really helped and I found like a lot of a lot of those like simple hacks and really help help me in like 3 tracking, you know, just trying to have like a nunning extended on broken streak or you're having commitments social commitments with other people so I could buy check in with Fitness and meditate. Everyday and you everybody checks in every day on this WhatsApp group and stuff like that really helps me view is that you thought about this a lot

for yourselves, but you also think a lot about it for your company and the people that work with you and and so, you know example front is consistently one of the top companies to work for on those lists and and you have talked a lot about how do you know how to help people work happy. We're and Find meaning in their work. And so how have you taken some of the practices from your own life easier for people that work at front to find meaning and to find happiness there two different things because there isn't one and what you can do as a leader of a company

so that people find meaning in the work and I can I will talk about this but then there is also what you can do as a leader so that they also price eyes their own happiness and they spend Lucas and their house and these are two things that we are deliberate about it and let me try to work on Sue on making sure that you're empres a price as their mental health every time a new front and pretty drawings. There is a company presentation called all about France and I told them all about fun and I tell them about you know, how Michael Saunders story was both horrible, but

also such a great thing that happened to to me and I will tell them that's like in the comics of friends. We'll talk about it and how I think they can be happy and contribute but at the end of the day if you want them to do first is focus on their own happiness and then front wheel hub them by, you know, if for example, we give health benefits for benefits, if you check your phone less or like we have meditation front or their many things to know how do you get people to stop checking their phone or it will tell us if you check your phone less than 2 hours a day.

I said at the end of the month to renew your iPhone or whatever. You can just send a screenshot then you get $200 on a new photo massage as a company. We try to have our employees who kiss on there and help me. I said we have a head of HR who who's Grace and she want to run a few weeks ago and she told me I had these new idea where so we're building an email company just like once every year for a week every employee should disconnect completely from work and we have the ability to look

at people out of their email. So it's not done yet. Have you had stayed off work and then there is a competition from Suffolk which is as an organization. What did you do to have people happy to come to work everyday and I and obviously it's also not something where you know, I will tell you one thing and then you'll do Daniel happened, but I think it's a combination of many things like people are happy because they have an impact in the more you can show whether and Pepsi is and transparency is one of the ways that you can implement this the better they want you to lay

there be there balangay. So the more you took about what your mission is in a we would just share it every All Hands these nuts if they don't tell you the David heard it in August because you've not said it's enough and that way they know why they're working on what they're working on and then just making sure you're a sense of it on a company of size for a work outside of the office every year and you know, we are almost 200 now and we still do it and like in 3 weeks. We're going to Phoenix and I think there is just a list of things this as accompany you can do so that people feel like they

did Noggin and how this impacts ending very deliberate about implementing them and changing as your company grows is something that I've become a professional but that's why I stopped. Front-end Justin when in the interview that I saw that Umatilla you guys talked about zone of genius and how you found it as a founder and you try to help the people you work with buying there's an emptiness. Can you talk a little bit about what that is? And then how you. You know, how one should find it reduced to this concept for my coach Matt Maher. Sorry, but he's coaching you now also so

Matt's grade Nick had the concept of Zona genius ideas, like most people work confident leaders and up in the Arizona comments, which is the things that they're good at, but they don't get energy from and the zone of Genius is the things you're good at that give you energy at the operational meetings like Monkey Business reviews, but they don't give me energy and so, you know in the meeting I might be distracted. I'm on my phone people can tell I'm not good at asking the right

questions, but like my I'm not like, you know, really getting Videos of the Damned my drain or I'd read it in the morning and you know, it's something that makes me slowly like hate my job and that's why I like I think most Founders actually end up if successful Founders to end up in this link Zone confidence when they end up doing something. Well, they're coming from successful, but they like I hate my job and I have so many friends of companies that you would probably imagined was, you know, otherwise that have that experience to the process is route to like you want to stay in your zone of

Genius. How do you do how do you get there? He recommends like to an energy audit where he basically write down or print out your calendar and all the things that you do every day or like you don't pay your previous last 3 weeks of calendar and just circle everything that give you energy and blue and circle everything that took away and red and then ruthlessly figure out how to have someone else do the things that are in red because that the the thing is like what gives you energy might a tortoise energy way from you might actually be something that someone else like to do and get energy for

all different. So some of my energy from that and so it's really about five. Sing for me and for my sexy and what are the things that give me energy? What takes them away? And then how do I like get those someone else who gets energy from those things to do those and then helping my exec team get there as well. They're like a session where you all sit down and discuss the stuff like we went about let's be honest about the stuff that gives energy mass of a dozen or is it because of what you can do and what I like that and usually feel most people have done it once or twice. I get the

hang of it and I can kind of cell. It gives you either method of energy or make is neutral and then you can either get rid of all the things that don't give you energy or turn them into something that gives you energy. So an example of this would be a Niger to every new hire all about Toronto and I was bored as I get done this presentation in a 50 times and so that doesn't give me energy but what could help me do is just Turn it into something that will give me energy. So for example if I was

very vulnerable and I'm speaking was being on my whole heart then probably it will be a good session for me until then. And so Vienna constantly thinking about how I can be more vulnerable in front of 19th and insurance something that was boring and repetitive into something that was nothing but I strongly videos that's what makes people happy is a spending there's enough genius and doing the same that there are unity good at versus Lake and that they like doing versus just doing something that you're excellent at and I

think when you leave the company as you have a unique opportunity to change your interview process so that you focus on making sure that you understand when you're interviewing someone orders in a genius is and that's something that we really change that France and at the end of the day and I reflect back on why front is a great place to work people seem happy or we have not regretted that Tricia. Is because as early as the interview process what I'm doing if I'm interviewing you is I'm not trying to tell you what front is, you know, the best place in the world and you are not

trying to convince me while I'm the best person in the world has fat but instead I'm going to tell you what this is what we need and these are the challenges in a person's of France. Like tell me like you could design a dream job. Like what it would be. What would you do what you wouldn't do what you're good at not good at and if we had a secret conversation, then you build trust that if I'm offering verses I believe that you can do the trip while he is not enough for this relationship to work super well and you find that people are really honest with you

in those conversations. Yes. I think it's all about building trust and making sure that but at the end of the day no one can convince me that there are good at everything. So it's like no matter what you don't have a choice that you have to tell and you'd rather tell me what you're actually Inventing something. What iPhone is it important to train your team and how to have these conversations but once you do that, yes, I think that's because we're in the same team is the person dreams and you know what you're after they quit like it's not

it's not great for them. And I just feel like the bar that everyone should have in their own happiness at work should be so high and as high as possible in and if it's not there yet, then you can just tell them while you're going to spend 8 hours a day 5 days a week. So many weeks a year as I work. So please think about how you could use this do that cuz there is no show me something you're good at. I heard that you in terms of training or team and then giving like empowering everybody on your team to kind of move forward in the same way. I heard that do you train your exec team has

coaches or what is the job they're not trained as coaches. Although a lot of them have gone to this conscious leadership workshop for coaches book call the 15 commitments of conscious leadership by Diana Chapman and a couple other co-authors and it's just kind of how lines like it's almost like an amalgam of all of the things to do in to make a describes a company that where people can bring their whole self to work like a whole emotional cells. They take 100% responsibility for what's going on around them and they're opening curious and kind of like you're the principles for how you should

operate if you want to have this kind of company. Kind of those those ones which is like people take a hundred percent responsible for what's going on around them. So instead of being like this thing is happening to me. It's like how it did I create the situation and that gives U agency to like be able to change it for the Future II is really about being open and curious and so like what can I learn from the situation that I'm in and then 30 thing is about bring your whole Emotional Self to work. So being able to you if you're angry or frustrated or you're sad at work, you can acknowledge

that most of the time to shut that down or that it said it's about acknowledging it but instead of being triggered in like being angry at the best thing I noticed I'm angry and then what do I want to do to change that? How can I get out of this is now they've been trained and their there they're kind of like bring into the company. Facebook is amazing. I would highly recommend it but there is a title again just so we can already down commitments of conscious leadership, but there is one thing that's playing in the book where you know, you just has a very small set of human emotions

and and and the person I'll give you constructive feedback in the in his heart too so I can give you an example. I had a one-on-one with someone gives you feedback and I could feel like she wasn't too happy about it, but wouldn't tell me why and so it's this very situation where as your feedback and I've made her unhappy upset said, I don't know but sit and then I didn't manage to have a peaceful conversation. So I told her okay in 2 hours we're going to meet again we are going to tell me is to put names on your

emotions that you might be feeling anger. You feeling sadness year, whatever. That's why party but Ensues and at least to the best foundation to use I shall fear like by you sharing the feedback. I fear that you might hire me and then you have the best people not putting names on their feelings and then just having an attitude that makes you think something is wrong. But so I think this is a very simple strike where every time you were in a situation where you feel like something is not right or you don't get to the bottom of it. Just ask the person to put a name

on what they feel is true in your personal life is so true in your personal life as well where you just say what I feel anger right now and it's saying you're so annoying because blah blah blah figure out how to get those barriers down in the picture were not used to bring her whole emotional sells right like you if you it's like there's a whole range of emotions is inappropriate to show rock, right if anger being one of them if you're frustrated and you you know, Acting frustration you feel frustrated you often

times like, oh I shouldn't be frustrated work and then you like try to suppress it, but it doesn't go away the building by Matt where you can dig knowledge them in and address them. Right if I feel frustrated being able to say I'm frustrated and I want to find a solution to that instead of just like screaming silently inside or outside to like people around me that can be much more productive actually and I have to get in order to create an environment where people do that yet the model it as a leader right? You have to be able to say Hey, you know, you have to

call me like this because my emotional experience and she was why it's not threatening to you is like I might be frustrated but not about you and like how can we find a solution to this you talk a lot about your co-founder having cancer and having to cope with that and learning how to cope with that in it. So as we all know take up so much emotional energy and so much. General and zip but life keeps happening. There's births deaths and you just had a baby recently. And so do you have any thoughts on like transitioning your founder and a

dad now any tips for people in the audience for parents or soon-to-be parents? I don't know. I think what's help me deal. Like I've been dealing with you know the startup in a much probably different way than I have and it's been you know, there's been a lot of ups and downs out of kids by months ago and then a month later broke both arms. And so we've had a lot of changes at work and had so nothing has helped me the most is just really being with my emotional experience and a meditation really help me. I kind of credit practice that would like let me be present of my friends whatever was

without without needing things to be different. I was a big one for me. The last thing I would say is, you know, it went when these things happen to you. The one thing that you remember is in most of the people here are you know working Stardust trading start up since you just feel like your life is your company because you care so much and it's a good feeling but at the end of the day like it's just a drive and it doesn't mean you don't care like he's just a job doesn't mean I guess it's a nine-to-five and I don't care. Just means like he's just a job and you know that you can think about

the worst case scenario if your company fails or is your unsuccessful at your job and you'll see it's it's not that big of a deal to once you have been able to process this then I think you'll have a healthy relationship to your job in the one thing. I ever repay you when things are hard as I didn't know they were very lucky because we have a great opportunity to get traded before any for every challenge. You see you're thinking well, it's just yet another unit in streusel from to Sullivan. I get the opportunity to find a solution that two hearts edition. If it was obvious someone who

does in a fun dates and implemented then you're way more constructive in the whole universe work. So I think we're out of time. Thank you for having us.

Cackle comments for the website

Buy this talk

Access to the talk “Leading Your Company Starting With Your Own Well Being - Justin Kan + Mathilde Collin + Kat Mañalac”
Available
In cart
Free
Free
Free
Free
Free
Free

Access to all the recordings of the event

Get access to all videos “2020 Startup Grind Global Conference”
Available
In cart
Free
Free
Free
Free
Free
Free
Ticket

Interested in topic “Entrepreneurship and Startups”?

You might be interested in videos from this event

April 29, 2020
Online
21
86
covid-19, fundraising, fundraising leader, help, motivation, philanthropic organization, practical advice, training

Similar talks

Geoff Ralston
President at Y Combinator
+ 1 speaker
Jewel Burks Solomon
Head of Google for Startups, US at Google
+ 1 speaker
Available
In cart
Free
Free
Free
Free
Free
Free
David Rogier
CEO & Co-Founder at MasterClass
+ 1 speaker
Allie Miller
Head of AI Growth, Startups and Venture Capital at Amazon
+ 1 speaker
Available
In cart
Free
Free
Free
Free
Free
Free
Jennifer Hyman
CEO and Co-Founder at Rent the Runway
+ 1 speaker
Aileen Lee
Founder & Managing Partner at Cowboy Ventures
+ 1 speaker
Available
In cart
Free
Free
Free
Free
Free
Free

Buy this video

Video

Access to the talk “Leading Your Company Starting With Your Own Well Being - Justin Kan + Mathilde Collin + Kat Mañalac”
Available
In cart
Free
Free
Free
Free
Free
Free

Conference Cast

With ConferenceCast.tv, you get access to our library of the world's best conference talks.

Conference Cast
558 conferences
22053 speakers
8194 hours of content