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Citrix Synergy TV - SYN210 - Avoid performance stress when using hybrid cloud workloads

Thomas Poppelgaard
Independent Consultant / Technology Evangelist at Poppelgaard.com
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Citrix Synergy Atlanta 2019
May 22 2019, Atlanta, GA, United States
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  • Thomas Poppelgaard
    Independent Consultant / Technology Evangelist at Poppelgaard.com
  • Christiaan Brinkhoff
    Global Black Belt - Sr. Technical Specialist, Windows Virtual Desktop at Microsoft

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Performance is always key for the end user, whether it’s on-premises, hybrid, or public cloud workloads. If your environment faces performance issues, you’ll be pleasantly surprised by the same performance when you move to the cloud. What is the most cost-effective sizing for your virtual machines to get the best performance? Are GPU workloads still relevant? What about WAN optimizers for cloud workloads, such as the HDX Enlightened Data Transport (EDT) protocol and Citrix SD-WAN? During this session, Citrix Technology Professionals (CTPs) will walk you through best practices gathered while deploying workloads on several clouds in addition to Citrix Cloud. Join this session to learn the fundamentals, gain insights into Citrix Virtual Apps and Desktop workloads, and ultimately get prepared to work on your first or second date towards Citrix Cloud services.Note: This session will be available for on-demand viewing post-event on Citrix Synergy TV.

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Say good morning synergy. How you guys doing? Great. So how was the Super session this morning? We could not attend as she 00:04 sometimes. So that's good. So I hope we will inspire you as well with our accountant around performance measurements and 00:14 best practices around the hybrid clouds from the clouds and at 5 class as well. So if you want to share something during his presentation, 00:24 please use one of those two hashtags as send to a one or a Citrix Synergy. I encourage you to treat make pictures do anything what you like 00:33

and we will be treated as well after this session. I would like to introduce myself. So I'm not 00:43 working as a cloud architect and Technology evangelist for 00:49 for Mike's of right now, I work for everybody acts which is acquired by Microsoft. So it's great to be part of her company. I'm also 00:59 active in several communities as such as specific scientific community and I'm going to be as well 01:08 and you can also follow me on Trudeau to keep updated on like Cloud related stuff 01:14

on my Twitter handle bring offenders Coursey, and I'm also and giveaways. Stroopwafels from the Netherlands so full of Supervisors over 01:24 here, even for people that don't have 01:34 questions can get us to Pablo's. So no worries next to that. I'm also currently 01:44 previous CT Feebas can calm. You probably know him 01:50 where we get our all Cloud knowledge of people from the community m p p e c t Please Release 01:59 date on the 7th of June next month. So if you are interested this other names, I don't know if you can read them. All the big names are in the book so 02:09

you can scan a QR codes. You can see how many days till last and bring you can order as you can find it on the website as well with me I have 02:17 Yeah, yeah, of course. My name is 02:29 Abigail., It's actually 02:33 something I've been doing for nine years. And that's my company name. She was a group leader and I'm proud of many different communities with Citrix 02:42 Microsoft and VMware and etcetera. And I come from Denmark which is the land of Lego. And we have this awesome 02:52

new Lego house. I highly recommend you come to the American Experience. If it is something really one extraordinary experience and I live close to the 03:02 city at the top 10 coolest cities in the world. Now, we just got out something out. So he had the other day in newspaper. So I highly recommend you 03:10 come to the Moc. So what do we do we have any from Denmark in here? Awesome stuff people. 03:19 So what do we have in common between the thinnest and the Dutch people? We actually have can we pronounce the same thing? And it's the 03:28

same thing is it's a weird thing you like what the hell is talking about? So many wet because a lot of things in Sandusky that 03:38 don't know if we have the same words. So remember this because you and you and everybody can win the prize. We 03:48 got a Red Bull out here with some racing car over you 03:58 Chris and bring all the way from their lands and then we also have it in Computing Raspberry Pi to run awesome HDX. 04:06 And don't forget the supervisors to mention for the second time. What do you think of 04:17

different answers to that? Probably the main thing to ya 04:25 to to do or to gain is it's it's it's cost. You want to leverage classroom during your procedure and have a simplified way of managing and maintaining 04:35 your environment is one that is most often when I ask questions or I get prices around at a Time cast from Leverage and 04:44 custom services that is one thing to do to keep in mind when you go to the clouds, but we more thing is something wrong and use 04:54

experience because when you leverage video visitation And the cloud that's basically the thing that stays last and I will call for that later on and 05:04 I'm worried that way and performance obviously as well and disruption because going from on-premise to Cloud. Let's create new 05:13 possibilities new technologies improvements as well. And a similar thing is his watch SpaceX he's doing right now, it's not the it technology 05:23 space technology and improving the procedure of launching a cockatoo to like an atmosphere to Mars 05:31

or eventually tomorrow and they made it possible as well. We use. Do it. So we use at that workers and 05:41 use it again for next line. So that is awesome. And we have such as well like a same sort of like disruptive way with 05:49 the transformation from vdi and SPCA to Das effects of service. So you probably saw the key out yesterday. Where is Citrix announced 05:59 his desktop, which is based on a decibel service on Windows Virtual desktop is well, that's a serious offer in which is available as part of a 06:08

suitcase and a real difference between it's basically that you are not responsible anymore off the brokering develop service and 06:18 networking maintenance the Sierra Vista Ridge and I prefer to lay on that so that simplifies the way how you manage to maintain your your desktop 06:28 virtualization environment in the clouds. So so when you look at that ass You are only responsible as customer or as a 06:37 partner for image management improve and get image making an image as as fast as possible for you and Jews are so that's the focus its efforts and 06:47

user experience. And that's the reason why we think that it is now it's time to focus more on that's open and user experience. 06:56 Oh my God. Christian just checking if you guys are still show up. Virtualization 07:07 today has like two different sort of options in terms of like operating system you have in the last side here. Yeah when the server which is mailed to 07:17 you as a capable. So you use like surf 2012 2016 or 2019. Yeah the mill to use our approach. It's written to T25 07:26

capable. You can use all the perpetual and your guests a long time service Channel Willy's management. So that basically means when you get it and 07:36 serve it to the 19, that's that's where you got the new features in on the white side. You have Windows and far as it's just like Windows 10 Windows 7 07:44 or Windows 8 and that is based in single user also went to D2 capable capable 07:53 to use Office 365 proplus and the difference between Windows server is that it is Seminole News Channel. 08:01

6 months off of built-up days that you get Windows 10, for example. As a witness told him I know there's a new version of the operating 08:15 system and that is Windows 10 minutes. He was right and that sort of like Best of Both Worlds. So you got like the mill to use the capabilities of 08:25 Windows server and you get like the experience of Hindustan. So it's possible it's off to 65 s 40th and 08:32 semiannual Channel update cyclesport it so you get along the same cycle along the same updates as as part of Windows 10, so that's great. 08:42

And that sounds like yesterday that will be part of the Secret Service and as well as part of their fur to action. Subsurface in the Citrus Plaza 08:51 so you could live in two different options. The Secret of his desktop is a desk supposed to serve his option that I 09:01 explain sand in a previous life for that gives you the same benefit in like maintenance and everything that you don't need to be don't are like 09:11 responsible for yourself and as a traditional vdi environment as be seeing if I'm so when you look at Citrix nice desktop, you have several options 09:20

like maintaining and they don't like the subscription of Asia and you have another option where you connect with your a JD to 09:28 Citrix managed desktop, and there's another option to just inject your own as your lady and there's another option to connect to your own 09:37 premises if I am in so it's a great option to use that I may be 2 years and then I would come out as well to ya migrate your your your environment to 09:47 eventually And this is the queen that you get to bless you to configure a 09:57

desktop in the secrets of optimizing your mind of uses your machines and then you're good to go. 10:07 So if you want to know more about when is Richard asked though, I recommended encourage you to face it those three sessions today. There's one and 10:18 there are two tomorrow and there are people from Microsoft into temptation of people from c2x and they run you through all the different options 10:26 around that. So let's talk about the good stuff. The roads are clouds. 10:33

So it's going to be a long journey and can be short journey and it all depends. So we're a lot of people are today is the private Cloud down print a 10:43 descendants. That's what I'm talking about. And making a journey to the cloud is for some customers. Even Highbridge the don't go to the go to a local 10:52 service provider that pushed move out some of the it up there. So they get their stuff at the service era. While all those what Microsoft and citrus 11:01 Etc are trying to go to the public clouds where they took care of the men of services. The thing is I believe the hype if I was going to be here for a 11:11

really long time because it's about data transition where you have data on the private cloud and transitioning all the data up. There is something 11:19 that takes time because we get more clouds out there which will be hybrid with different services. It's loud insects into something new. I want to 11:28 highlight that companies are doing because we see machines according to him to go to collect data. This is also a unique data centers 11:37 and it's just another one we put that in in the hybrid Cloud ticket transfer my information. So what kind of batteries do Citrix will bring us a 11:46

bridge between these clouds. So in that work space is actually capable of delivering are the desktops both 11:55 from any Cloud. They have any extras or in the keynote yesterday. They now also have Google cloud with machine crisis Services. The only one which has 12:05 the most Gnostic provider across clouds. And they were 12:14 supposed to win this Merchant. They stopped here at the Publix applications and and see that in the same control plane. And the motorcycle stand in my 12:24

career applications. So if you look at the hyperglide typical journey to Asher. Is when people do if you see something points or 12:32 side-to-side the problem is I but I've seen out there in the field is it's about latency since about response time again you experience 12:42 with Kristen talk about and this is what expressroute actually comes in and fix that or we can enable sizzix Estevan, which will again go in 12:52 and create reliability and enable you to do kids quit use experience. Maybe I found a small department and the last apartment you don't have 13:02

punched side and small Department last appointment. You have you have side to side and express proud and Estevan and then we'll decide scription. You 13:12 don't have to punch inside inside your side. Take a look at Estevan. What is what kind of value drinks from for virtual apps on desktop in the cloud 13:20 experience can do that to yourself up to to actionaid LBS and Google 13:29 Cloud by putting up in Estevan, which you can do that now with the virtual Appliance and even cooked in it that down to your office. Then you have 13:39

availability. You can also talk to my data traffic databases five star of us. You need an optimized for Office 365 where Secrets have a lot of data 13:48 that which they actually showed in the in the Keynote. Leaving tickets for earlier and they also do video on demand services and optimize that kind of 13:58 traffic. What are the new great things for 6 SF in working close to get with marks of his office is the teams and what to 14:07 do optimization for that and then they also do a local train. Should I take care of all that I give you an example so you if you have a band on the 14:17

office and SSD band in the in the cloud and you know, how you do a video call and the connection distracted with 1 days to die instantly other one 14:25 takes over and the user testing gets disrupted. So that's why we're liability is really key for this. I just where is there a value? 14:35 So, you know TCP and UDP how the differences are is a great example on a picture. 14:45 And bring it into what ships are working on. So what they're doing is 2 EDT would sex in the UDP based they doing a lot of work on this 14:56

and why they actually increasing experiences and what 15:06 station on 1st a 215 I highly recommend they 15:14 going very in-depth into data between TCP and UDP. Nothing, but we want to highlight 15:24 is superstar in the netscaler service don't support UDP or EDT. What's the problem but you can fix that by bringing your own life. And then you 15:34 actually enabling that and you get the EBT capability. So in Microsoft Excel floating teams 15:43 preview where you can offload traffic to the endpoint Chicago business optimization pack you think about this 15:53

if they now have it in on a team for machines now available and Christian. What can can you share with me why this is so important in the main 16:03 differences between let's go one back between the machine version in the previews of version. Is that as before his update your installed teams in the 16:11 user profile which simply means that when you get a nice four teams on our mail to use environment needs to update all those teams versions on the 16:20 environment and Monday morning. You don't send it permits. Gene variation takes it back and puts it back in the 16:29

phone files directory and weather updates one screw machine and you can control that buy Imaging Just a bit damaged 16:39 and you're good to go for the protection ring and what you what you are using. So if you are interested in 16:49 our code into in the corner and that's what you're into that sat registration form and then you get to the 16:56 bits provided by what a product manager. So let's talk about performance on Prime and the cloud there are some things that are like equal the same. So 17:06

if you optimize on crime and in the cloud, that's that's the same and it's one quote that reminds me of of that and if you start now 17:16 you'll pass nearest Fry's to the lack of change when you move to the class and that's basically when you lift and shift to the clouds you take your 17:26 bet. The farm is way too beautiful to think about that. When you move to the cloud Optimizer images your procedure everything to gain and to ensure 17:34 your end user experience. So why shooting tools do matter also for the class? We are 17:43

part of your like 4 Dead that survey and we asked to the people do you currently performance chewing your environment? And the majority is saying 17:53 that they use the optimization tool or I see things Optimizer to gain and and and better user experience and intensity performance etcetera. 18:03 And when you look at the results of that, these are like a pro measurements results. You see that you gained like 15 or 18:12 20 10 10 10 users. Do I need to knit with Citrix up to my sword if you hang up soon as a Shinto so that's definitely word is also in the cloud because 18:22

when you can use more users on the machine and then you can save costs as well. Machine because you can fit more use his own that's a vdi. 18:31 Let's talk about Logan performance. Also question that we ask what's your primary performance concern in your virtual desktop environment 18:42 Bobby. That's that's resonates with you guys. Probably and the second one. Is it slower guns and 18:51 slow to go into something that that we can solve and I will explain why or how do you say you can do that? So let's talk about the average time during 19:01

saffell build. So failed Windows 10 where you can see that the Lord is something like 15-20 incest as average 19:10 along the way up dating Windows 10 from 1607 to 1809. It becomes a little bit slower as you can see on that the dark blue match 19:19 break over here. And that was the place where Windows included one drive in the user profile. So it in cells one drive into the user profile at the 19:29 moment the user logs on. So that's something other Souls as well by making one right as well as per machine version for the same benefits of the 19:38

team's version. That's a QR code as well and that explains exactly what you need to do to go from the user to the pier machine that version. 19:48 I know somebody that's that as well. That's another way right you can give him if you don't use one and you can remove it as well. 20:01 So let's let's talk about other options that you can do to to improve your user user logon duration. So that 20:12 space is the profile container technology. It's part of the equation which is now part of Mike's of the core technology. 20:22

When you look at the use of a process of a video as environment is segmented in six parts and tear apart is 20:31 the user profile portrait. Normally. They use a profile is loaded from the server when you use like a Roman cohort losing your profile Sperry Lodge, 20:41 it takes a lot of time to get to load your photo from this file server to your vdi to your to your station hosts. So we can you 20:49 stream your data in a vgt. So you don't run the data t'pol bases Block Base and then you gain in like performance 20:58

at to farm like like 30 or 40 seconds to 5 sec. Because it's not depending on the size of the profile anymore. It's just strange to profile directly 21:08 into the vhd and that's really disruptive to to getting what you can Soul 4WD M work space environment 21:17 management is putting that down screen and then you can 21:27 gain as well and performance log on and that's basically this setting that you need to configure then to disable 21:37 you p.m. And you will remove write the flag. Because we haven't received 21:47

but he's in Naples. We need to remove the flag to get a disabled. Yeah, this is already disabled upm user 21:56 you use you p.m. Right now and you want to gain as well and Logan duration performance. You can just disable it and use the pole for container 22:05 solution for that. Did they give you a name like an experience expression Dental impression demo. This is a section that is configured with a 22:13 solution on the back and when you click on your on your desktop It loud loud loud very quickly to your to session 22:22

and the interesting thing about this session as a described earlier. It includes light to eyes on the on the desktop and 22:32 that are both 5 gigs for this profile is 10gb invoice sample. You probably end up with a lagoon duration of like 10 seconds 22:41 Louis coffee retailers uses just to get you to prove to show the user profile status with this machine. 22:51 I chose like 10 gigs over here and it's local as well. So it doesn't see that. There is a swimming pick Knology in between 23:00

so that's so that's something to keep an eye out for it and his mouth off 265 Services because you need to be a Superman or are you is 23:10 like technology like a light like like you haven't looked just like all the the different services at 56053 Odessa 23:19 fertilization environment and it's just as well part of the seat fix Monday's desktop. So is he Rich this technology? Nice profile management solution 23:29 as well and in conjunction probably wear to wem software application management 23:39

solution energy-efficient control solution vacant when different versions of different applications of different versions of Java on the same machine 23:48 by using at masking orgasm version of fall. Send a good thing about that is that I was learning toys for free 23:56 for everyone. So that's a decision that microscope has been made. Even with a McDonald Happy Meal. That's just a joke, but if you have like 24:06 entitlements for these kind of licenses you got for free so you can just left Rich this and I need any additional 24:15

investment, but that's great. What I want you want to add is if it's not that is really awesome. But you also need to 24:24 size your story. If you will increase your story right that says something super important to look at and that are guidelines of myself and a lot of 24:34 black folks out there. You need to you need to size based on blood by desires rather than on your true food because it's a Blog by a solution 24:42 of Grey sex. Why do you need them? Baby, I 24:51 like a pro day mates. Also this analysis collecting all the data from customers and pass around the world. And I want to highlight is so I could have 25:01

been doing this for several years and he is actually increase then I'll keep you safe and use out there in the in the company's or we want to 25:09 highlight in the top. It's actually that most people are you today to get a better overall performance for the windows on a vdi workload? 25:16 Play Snapchat score, you know, which is the second one, which I think is interesting. The second one is for cat and Photoshop and revered. That's how 25:26 we did back in the day if that's why he bought the chief use only because of that carry majorities any card application. 25:34

Let's see here. The video roll. Yeah, so if you're not seen this this video in video decorated where you see the difference between a c t u 25:46 d d i and a GPU power. He clearly see on the left. Listen to see if you you get a hit on the under seat fuse box 25:56 and if things are not smooth and not running fast and this is why you getting benefits of buying if you so did you wish I can be more productive 26:05 again. This is what David said, he knows about productivity right-wing Kris productivity. This is why you need to give you a 26:14

lot of people talk about density in song focus on productivity how we can help the business work people faster. It's a key message 26:24 that I cannot continue talking about. again, another thing is Excel wishes is 26:34 showing here and also that stuff is being thing going faster with the Jeep you actually this something I've been doing. I start doing it over 5 years 26:44 ago at a finance customer so they can be more productive and we all float 26:51 to see if you that you commands for the trilogy for you. If you don't have to keep you then you get hit by the Sea View. And this is a problem. If you 27:01

don't get salt with a few the same thing happens, when you go to the cloud many people did the same stuff this chick you only you know, so you going 27:09 from on-prem to the clouds remember strategy View. Instead of focusing cost look at increasing productivity. 27:18 Microsoft is actually increasing productivity in Windows operating system Windows 7 all the way up to 10 East generation to create a new one. 27:27 They actually increasing the API calls for both direct and so on which says, you know a window sizing up and a graphical user 27:37

interface and this is where I give the land and using to keep you commands for NVIDIA why you need that you queue for it. Otherwise it with you to see 27:46 if you and you get some pie spice. This day not sure what you before. It's actually Lakeside the collective, but it's good data. So what I recommend 27:55 is why you started texting me before you need to do BDI, or you do. Look at the physical layer 28:03 always look at physical machines go and look at the application. What does how do you steep you because people don't do that when the size they look 28:13

at video by then. Just a few and and then put a thing up in the air right where I said, which direction is Dad going. I always recommend going in to 28:23 look at a physical level. Why because you have to tune for Microsoft. They have process Explorer is his free evil show you real-time data on the GPU 28:31 compute and Achieve you frame buffer. You can even go go down to the application and get the insides of your vacation and he said that you can see if 28:40 my sap application using GPU is my browser using GPU lot of people looking for evidence. This one shall shoot the valuable data. 28:49

Send the next step when you add in keep you sweet lips a naughty design solution into Data Centers on Prime iCloud. Now you want to monitor to GPU. 28:59 This is so important people forget about that stuff just keeps running but we need to look at data and on on the right so they can actually control 29:07 that they can look at both on the outside, but it can also look at the VM side and the process side so they can look at data what time but also 29:17 real-time see me till you can go in and see if on this house we had an issue on this VM on this process. Is really bad lip remote control up to her 29:25

and a few side tool and Super Fantastic Tools that can go in and look at data or time. And again, when was you 29:34 impacted which application used GPU what they do if it's different here is he can go in and look at the video from both AMD Nvidia 29:44 and insult. Exactly super valuable. He just released a new bill released when he can even see the stuff you actually get from Windows 10 29:54 task manager. So he looks a video processing decoding encoding and 3D. Very very very very valuable Penny Candy Kiss You 30:03

Inside strong how you do things if you or time do I need more Chief use the data is the stuff that will help you convince your 30:13 booty for witches the new Universal GPU thinking about this view is a slow form-factor GPU 30:22 and by adding two of these people to do in send this one you can do to the T false. 30:31 And also you get stuff like real-time Ray tracing Etc. You can even use it for a for a i if you switch it at night time. Great thing is Google is 30:45 actually one of the the first class of doctor's right now. You can actually provision with MCS Citrix and then use the Tea Party fuse for that and you 30:55

get that awesome experience. Let's share our personal Pub five tools and performance breakfast with best practices that we use on a cloud wear 31:03 clothes and on-premises workers as well as one best practice that you need to keep in my regular average cloud services. 31:13 Keep in mind that you can save a lot of money when you go for reserved instances rights definitely means Yeah, you was like 31:22 for yams in Asia or any other clouds that you pay already up front for your resource for 1 year to year. So it doesn't matter if you put your image of 31:32

Lights should him down or put it on hold or anything like that. It just reserved instance for you and that can like like save 31:41 you a lot of money like 50% or something. Another great thing is to use power management tools and keep in mind that the breaking point between going 31:51 for reserved instances or using power management feels like 70% uptime during the week. So if you have more than 70% of the week your your 32:01 machines one end and reserved instances is cheaper for you than using power Manor management. Tools likes you fix Auto skills Auto skills and solution 32:11

that is available in Citrix Cloud where you can like spend up machines based on your resources that you need as well as the business hours are doing 32:20 business hours should Down and then safe cause tearing during the day on all your resources in the cloud. So that's that's available. And yeah, that's 32:30 that's part of the Citrus clouds. Where did you can also see what you safe and cost based on your Cloud that you are using so 32:39 you can see the money that you save during the day or do week two? Yeah. Well you never reaching out example. Yeah an audio analyzer. 32:49

So when you give the guy some kind of milk and some some poop comes out of it and 32:58 it's awesome it is if you never tried this to a highly recommended again, this gives you inside of the HDX protocol 33:06 and give you insights on bandwidth frames quality. And even day till what time the cool thing about this tool is if you 33:16 pay a few dollars for it, you actually open up the tool and then you can change the policies so you don't have to create policies login logout the 33:25

dude real time so that you can see it. I change visual quality of frames switching from TCP to UDP and Etc. 33:35 Actually, did you do the piece that has a feature that is getting worked on that. It's getting their medicine soup Alton tools. They also do insights 33:46 about Nvidia. We can actually see how did you fuse getting getting used at a buffet in code and decode? Another tool that I highly recommend is a tool 33:56 from which you can use on your infrastructure see 34:04

stuff like CPU GPU encode decode and the protocol and Frank office and network Windows X and it's a 34:14 super great tool. If you have not used it again, it's free download free to use The last one I went to highlights. It's 34:24 the future. So benefits is the greatest Superman the sessions they are super awesome 34:34 because he really what has happened between the protocols and when you do a chainsaw and analytics Pines of stuff, right, which is the difficult pop 34:43 because when you look at user experience, it's the eyes looking at why are they use is and we sit down right don't you think of to measure that is 34:53

having a side-by-side comparison? And this is where the rec center lyrics is a super super valuable to so I'm very excited when when the twin 35:01 gets shipped out there so we can get it on and it's it's fantastic work then it's done. 35:11 So this is the time every you going to raffle the prices way. So I hope you pay attention to answer those questions. I would say just raise your 35:22 hand when you know your answer and Shout It Up loud and then you win one of those prices to the first question number one. small drum roll 35:32

and this is the price for this one here. So what would Ripple 35:43 Plus? 35:47 I will. Are you awake? 35:58 So what product can help you to speed up your conjuration? Yeah, but for you it is easy. 36:13 looking so one more thing before we wrap up this sanction. 36:36 Keep in mind that is because of cloud services. It's our job to decertify shity Andrews experience because because that 36:46 becomes way and way more important these days because we go to that supposed to surface Solutions Etc. So that's the thing that stays the most 36:56

important for you when she was this. So what does I would like to say? If you have any questions just go to the microphone or come get me? 37:04 I have any questions. It's not a challenge but the fslogix PHD or profile container. 37:20 Do you have to use fslogix or is there something in Pro a newer profile management to use containers as well 37:29 expectations are integrated as well and WM but that's still something maybe we'll have fun 37:37 but we guarding right now it's just a separate profile products. So you can use it in conjunction with out any consoles are management skills next to 37:47

it. What product are you talk about if it's okay? Okay. Thank you. Someone 37:56 questions. And actually soda license its small she's all right, so that's when download if it's not fixed today. You got a trial. So it's working on 38:06 getting that in the next month or two. I when she takes away to need to enter in the license key. So you're good to go and you 38:15 can just upgrade your if you have to come and set up you can upgrade it. But if your new costume are you once twice you can just use the beds from 38:25

microsoft.com downloads and you're good to go. I got Grace one more. Would that fslogix 38:33 container compliment user layering and a plenary Norwood it replace it? That's a good question. I don't know. 38:42 I think that I'm playing will still be there and it's just another solution that you can leverage. So so yeah. That's probably the best answer that I 38:52 can get specific user layering. Yeah, so it's sort of like similar in terms of technology. So it's also using a PhD I 39:01

bet you used to use Olay you need to have liked to complete a playing Suites. We need to have grades or change your image management. And this is just 39:11 a separate thing for user profile. So you can use it in conjunction as well without play right hand. Just don't use to use a lighter. For example, 39:18 if you have 39:25 another solution to leverage the same benefits than Can use it as well. And can I rehydrate it recommends? If you don't get your not try to 4/6 today 39:35

use the VM roaming absence, you know any of the other ones here and then see how incredibly makes your life easier 39:44 to win, but then she starts, you know, you need to 39:54 collectively that's that's that's the only thing to keep in mind, but that's not a problem. That's just something you need to keep in 40:02 mind when you're designing face. Another question Yeah, you mentioned you talked about fslogix containers. And then you mention I think it Bonte 40:12 environment manager right has the vhd for your support for Office 365, right? So what fslogix 40:21

it's still stores the vhd on a storage device somewhere on your network, correct? Kaiser as possible 40:31 as well. Yeah, I sold at that time it mounts the vhd but the Gage D still resides on the storage 40:41 issues. You could see some performance issues yes, or no, there's another solution which is clout cash and 40:48 that takes away like that that like Risk and that's something you can use as like alternative for that. Like if you have to start environments and you 40:58

have like two notes in a closed environment. So you take care of that we're done and see on that side. So I never said that. I 41:08 didn't 41:17 go 41:18 very well and try it out and see how good it is exactly. What proof of concept is really really really doing like that. Guy the question. 41:28 I seen a lot of people asking about how about management of an F-16 broke down because everything 41:38 is stopped spinning PhD previous version is that supported with the profile 41:48 as well average debt solution based on top of the Native Africans and 41:55

solution as of today, but maybe in the future that will change and then you will have lights origin in your profile streaming technology like 12 42:04 or corruption and everything around that that does not like an issue anymore. But in terms of going back to a previous date of an application now 42:14 that's not possible right now maybe in the future but not right now, but maybe it is possible with Windows previous versions because that makes it 42:23 snaps out every so hours you said it bored as hell or but that's just another solution to to do the same that 42:32

you doing in previous other solution or although he was like Not a 42:42 question, you get tools wear around the Forum in spiced Viet measuring performance. Is there any that you recommend about that 42:52 user experience I've ever attended are trending on user experience too much about the user experience school be cutting tools that you recommended to 43:02 us. Right but that's different. If you want to do existing 43:10 data work clothes you have right? So and I'll give you a user experience 43:20

goal top of things. 43:29 So liquid where I have 43:30 that and Lakeside they they they are probably out there as well and that's exactly 43:40 I might seem like the user to use a session and gets the score as well. That's maybe something to watch out for as 43:51 well. So, we need to wait how far that goes in your question. Your You is kind of maybe that's 43:58 something as well to keep an eye on any more questions. 44:08 Nope. Okay, great. So I would like to thank you for being here and have a great conference. Thanks guys. 44:18

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