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Our next guest is an American entrepreneur and former actor known for his work in the cryptocurrency industry. He's currently running for next term's US presidency and is here to share what he has in store for the American people. Alon Goren of Draper Goren Holm leads an exclusive fireside with US Presidential candidate Brock Pierce on how he envisions the future of America under his leadership.

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Andrew Dix
Founder and CEO at Crowded Media Group LLC
Adam Draper
Founder and Managing Director at Boost VC Accelerator

Crowdfund Insider was founded in 2012, soon after the signing of the JOBS Act by President Obama. The digital publication has been a leading voice, and independent advocate, for the disruptive innovation of Fintech and access to capital for small and emerging companies. Articles published in Crowdfund Insider have been referenced in speeches and documents by public officials around the world. The site has generated a consistent audience on Capitol Hill and other federal agencies. In 2015 Crowdfund Insider partnered with the Centre for Alternative Finance of Cambridge Judge Business School as the exclusive media partner for the European Alternative Finance Benchmarking Report. Andrew is a regular participant in the bipartisan Securities Regulation Working Group organized by the Heritage Foundation. Andrew speaks regularly at alternative finance events around the world.

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Adam Draper is the founder and managing director of Boost VC. Adam is a 2x entrepreneur and a 4th generation venture capitalist. He also has a very large comic book collection. In 2009, the same year that Adam graduated from UCLA, he founded Xpert Financial, a secondary market for private securities. After settling millions of dollars in private security transactions and becoming a registered broker-dealer, he left Xpert Financial in late 2012 and began angel investing, where he backed such startups as Coinbase, Plangrid and Amplitude. Adam then partnered up with Brayton Williams and to change the face of global startup mentorship. The focus of Boost VC on future technology development stems from Adam Draper’s dream to create an Iron Man suit.

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Hey, we're back on and while he's getting his mic on, we have Brock Pierce here with us. Doesn't really need an introduction but I'll still give him one. You guys know him. One thing as a as a Pioneer in the space of Bitcoin Foundation. The First Security token ever. So so many you know digital Collectibles at the very very beginning and all the things that you know I'm for the we had conversations in previous versions of this event with with him but now we got something to probably never would have guessed. We would have said

presidential candidate. So Brock welcome. Thank you for being here. I know you're in the middle of a crazy schedule. So thanks for joining us. Yeah. Well, I've been supporting you for a long time. I think. Well, it started when I I filled in for Tim Draper that was such a story as we we got to hit that really quick. So we did our first crowd and best Summit ever, which must have been maybe five years ago now or something like that because it was a while ago and him was supposed to be the opening keynote, I was going to be like a fireside chat with him

or something and literally the morning of Tim called me and didn't call you to send an email because he's like, I'm so sorry. I'm sick. I can't make it. Can we get to take my spot? And he started making suggestions and he's like, I'm going to text Brock, you'd be awesome. Do you know Brock, you got a connect and then came and we had a great fireside chat. You were talking a lot about crypto about all this Innovative stuff and most of the people in the audience, including need to know what you were talking about. Cuz it was you know, where Very crowdfunding proud and

crowdfunding. And the funniest thing was after the event Tim started getting emails from random people saying I was at the event to him. You were amazing and Brock blond guy very different-looking, right? Like you see it if it were next to each other. They look so different though. It's just such a funny situation and we had a lot of fun just in that conversation afterwards but I remember that conversation turned into all it. Basically like you don't remember them going to Venice and you telling us about this thing called the security token. And you were telling us about

how you're going to launch a security token. We're going to take the regulator, you know, and we're talkin about that news so far ahead of its time. So you know, I can't wait to hear your ear. Feelings and what you're going through right now, because it's always, you know, it's always very, very, you know, ahead and so thank you again for all your support over the years. And being a part of this, I actually saw it. I'm watching to, I'm keeping the most of these chats were in a separate thing, but I'm keeping the chat live on my screen so I can see if you guys ask questions for Brock. So I

can throw some songs on his way, but I just what start with what's going on right now. I mean you're making headlines. yeah, well, I'm running for president of the United States of America, and so I use the first piece of advice. I would encourage all of you to have any time someone tells you they're running for political office, but same thing, anytime someone do any of the things that were looking at so I can troubleshoot problems to a present a presidential candidate that could also work the computer. Yeah, I mean

in the world that this is a skill set that we would want in our leaders. You know, we'd like them to understand what's going on in the world, have their finger on the Falls. I mean, we got Artificial, Intelligence coming online robotic Nation, jobs, changing everything changing social. Networking is affecting our democracy. I mean, it's embarrassing. When we watch our Tech leaders testify before, The government's quality of the questions. I think we need some dish and every leadership that

understands technology but let's take a step back. So I'm president of the United States of America and so the question you should always ask him candidates for anyone with an idea pitching into these things has is, why are you doing? Question why? So, tell her I can summarize why I'm running for office in one word. Lot. A time where so many of us feel like our choices are fear and hate at a time where the United States feels like the divided States, we have to find a path forward. That unification

were divided right now, politically racially economically. While at the same time with facing existential threats environmentally technologically. Pandemic Lee issues with foreign Nations nuclear. I mean, it's like Is scary. Like I think we're doomed if we don't do something different, the status quo is not working. It feels like work a frog. Do you like being boiled, you know, in water that being in a warmed up slowly? And I'm just looking at our freedoms and I'm looking at our economy, looking at everything is just like, stop stop. This is something wrong. I feel it. I see it.

And I'm stepping up to do something about it. I'm stepping up for, like, point out issues to present ideas that are different than those that you're hearing about, actually, addressing the stuff that no politician would normally be talked about. And so, I didn't have to find a way out of this, and I think that there are answers, we have a lot of problems right now, but Innovation is the answer to our problem. We have 21st century solutions to our 21st century problems. I don't see any, I don't see any lights or the Google. Here's the destination

for our nation like yours where we got to go. I don't see that. I mean, the debates the other night, where I mean they were so deep. I'm in the depths of the policy discussions there. I'm in a short and lightning and the dignity and the respect of the quality of leadership. I wasn't even presidential. It was like, it was Regal future and an end, the confidence in the in the inspiration that 2030 is going to be okay, everything to be great. We're laughing like a punk rocker,

write me, 18 years old when 9/11 happened. It was literally like my first semester of being out of the house. Try that went to school and I'm a punk rocker, but half of my friends, go to join the military. Half my friends, go extreme opposite direction. Right? And like and what's crazy is that look at both sides of the political Spectrum, claiming to be something, so different from each other. But the people who are on the Democratic side would have easily been pretty much

exactly the same as the Republicans, I hated back then, so far that direction and then the thing is, there's no gray area. There's no conversation but I can't tell a friend that I agree on one subject. That somebody says without saying, you know that I can agree with some other subject. Somebody says, because I'm a traitor. And it's so weird because like, I don't know if you grew up like, I, I joke that I grew up in a house of Israelis and I don't, I can't like if I argue with someone, if the people I agree with the most like, that's how you know. I'm, I agree with you. I'm arguing with

you over something, right? And it's like, you go to the dinner table, you argue about politics to argue about, you know, all sorts of things, and then you. Love the person at the end of the night, right? Like you, you throw your arms around them and give them a kiss and you move on because in the only reason why you're fighting and arguing is because your passion and you love each other and it's like so different. Now, like if you even suggest one thing that that could trigger somebody or something, I don't mean that in a kind of way, people are arguing about no snowflake thing, nowadays,

but it's just weird. That there is no gray area. You can't be like, oh yeah. I'm like, for example, all of the things that most of the social things, people are saying, you know, should be done on one side of the aisle. I think are inherently human rights, but I also truly believe that there's not one government official that could actually execute on any of those plans. So, I guess it's weird. So, do you vote for the person who says the right thing, even though, you know, there's no chance in hell, it will ever happen. I think the answer is that is

exactly what you do. I think we have a major problem in this country that we don't have compassion. And patience for people we disagree with. You know, we should be able to sit down at a table and have a conversation and at the end of that conversation, we should be able to agree to disagree. But no through that process that we understand the other person's perspective. And through that understanding we can men find compromise. We can find a path forward. The fact that we are not able to have conversations, we're not even able to have a

pinion. Like you were saying if you agree with this one thing, all the sudden, you're a traitor with no. I'm I'm trying to talk about an issue and I think that maybe neither side is all right or wrong. Right. They're both wrong and they're both right? Especially in this polarizing. Tracy, media world that were in. Like you have to go to extreme, you know, I guess it's in what people say and what they do are so extremely different and I don't like we live in in a great state. Do I live in a great state? I don't know where it where you are full-time anymore cuz you're all over the

place. But like I live in California. I love California. But two of our greatest cities LA and San Francisco have like the worst homeless problems that they've ever had. And the politicians running, both places are haven't said nothing, but the right thing in terms of them, we're going to fight to end this. We're going to do everything we can to stop it, but it's only gotten worse, you know. So like it's it's it's really really hard. It's a sign is credited with this line that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and over again. If you

spell A different result. That's what it feels like, left right left right left right but it feels like we're just going in circles. It actually feels more like we're in a downward spiral and so it's time that we wake up to the reality that we need to vote our conscience. Don't buy into this blesser of two evils stuff, you know, that's what they keep telling you every election and this one's really important. So, you know, you got to do this in the next time we can do what we think is, right? We can do what we believe is, right? We can go

for candidates, we believe are right? No, no, we do what we believe in our hearts, is the right thing to do. It matters more when it comes to the system of governance than anything else, this is the system that governs over us. It was meant to be there in service to us. You know, we don't allow our family members to operate without Integrity to lie or cheat still miss, you know, these things are required in our family that we are friends. We even require that with most of our colleagues, at least the

people we do business with over the long run. So why in the world would we allow that type of behavior to exist in the system that Governor politics? It is a system of governance that governs over us. We cannot continue to allow this to happen. What they do is, if the left and right wing in the same bird and they keep tricking us into believing, we only have two choices, which is a lie. It is an illusion, 43% of eligible. Voters are not voting 38% of registered. Voters will be registered as independent by 2024, 70% of Democrats and Republicans. They

are the minority. We are the silent. Majority that have been tricked into not voting our conscience and not doing what we know to be, right? The path forward is in the middle. Where's that common-sense where both parties can have some, right? And some wrong? Where is that moderate section in the middle Common Sense sensible thinking, where they are? We are the majority in the moment that we realize that we have all of the Power We can change it, all the future is going to happen to you or it's going to happen with you. So let's get

involved and create a future that we all want to live in. And so I'm 39 years old, I turn forty next month of November, so this is the beginning. I'm laying the foundation for the future and this is not about me. This is about creating a political movement and Uprising. A revolution of sorts to create a government of for and by the people where we get candidates into office, who are there to directly represent the constituents that elected them free from the control

of political parties on November 4th, I am looking for 100 candidates to run up and down the ticket in 2020, to 100, candidates preferably that are not career politicians, doctors, teachers, businesspeople, entrepreneurs artist athlete scientist, engineered whatever people that are prepared, to serve the governments of foreign by the people, we need some diversity. And so I'm building the infrastructure, not only for my presidential. Run. But for you, so I invite you, I encourage you to ask

yourself, are you ready to stand up and do something? Our future depends on it? The fake, not only of this nation, but the fate of humanity will be determined by the decisions. We make over the course of this. Next decade. This is the ultimate sacrifice. I am stepping into the ring of fire prepared, to lose everything. I have to give up everything. I'm on potentially even my life because that is what is at stake right now? I am a father of two young girls. What kind of world are we going to leave behind for the generation that follows us? Will it be at world that they can survive in?

Will there even be a world left for them? And if we do our job correctly, it could be a world. They thrive in. And now is the time it is. The 11th hour. It's time for us to get involved in it. Starts with registering to vote voting, your conscience. I don't care who you vote for, but vote and vote for what you believe to be right. Do not allow fear. To make the decisions for you. That is the tool of the parties to prevent you from doing what you are supposed to do. What?

1000% believe everyone should vote and I want everyone to vote. I want everyone to to be able to say that they exercise their right to vote because you can't it's hard to really justify complaining about something you refuse to participate in. So so there's that, right? But I also feel like it's the entrepreneur In Me. Maybe it's what drove me to crypto and and and startups and all that stuff, right? Like there is the feeling of like why participate in this broken thing? Why not burn it to the ground and start over? Why not skip this? This goes straight to digital 360, no

borders, no Nations, screw it, all, let's just start fresh, you know and and you at you know knowing you're back I knew you were crazy enough probably to go that route to do. So I would love to hear you're feeling. So if you know why get into the mix of this already broken system versus like, let's let Come up with something totally brand. So, there's two ways to go the path that you just described. Is going to be full of chaos and it's going to involve the loss of a lot of lives and I

don't know how that's going to go the alternative. Is it? Yes, the system is broken but it's not all bad. Let's take it over. Let's begin to fix it and let's upgraded, let's upgrade the operating system of the United States of America. Let's create America, 2.0, incorporating the ideas that you're talkin about that is an evolutionary event. This is the path that winds ideal which is why I'm doing. I promise you burning it all to the ground is not going to be a pretty picture over the system and

thoughtfully fixing it and making the necessary changes to upgrade it. I think he's too far better route but yeah, I'm biased, you see someone running for office and involved in this but as someone that's been on the Forefront of these things and has thought, deeply about this path, you know, I understand it from both perspectives because I am that disruptor I am the one that's been sticking up the status quo for a long time but now that we've shaken things up. It's time to land it, you know, and so I'll just tell you a little bit about some of the experience cuz there's only has less

than 30 days left in the election. I can tell you the system is completely wrecked. As you know, I think we all know this, but it's very different to hear it from someone that can literally describe, like, the stuff, I mean, it's wild, but it's a rigged game, rigged a system. Well enough. Can prevent me from finding a way to beat it. I'm at, I mean, that's, that's wet, but if we're going to learn anything from startups and Entrepreneurship, if if you know, there's,

there's a way to game every system, there's a cheat code somewhere. There is a hacker somewhere that's going to be able to do something right sucks. Going back to your software analogy. There's no such thing as launching a piece of software which is 0 bucks. Not never happens. Right? So you find that and then shake it up and and you know change things up a little bit and I think that's super important. I need every everything you talk about is very realistic and serious and and you you came out this very professionally write like it. This isn't like a BS. Kanye posting on Twitter on running

for president, kind of thing. You had campaign videos and policies and and all of these very professional laid out, plans and ideas, not again, trying to separate you from the goofball to say I'm running. But I can a hundred percent sure and I saw some of it, you know, third party that you weren't treated seriously, right? Like, can you give us some stories? And you know that's that's the first step in the in the you know Rick system, right? Like it the fact that it's it's laughable. It's our last at not laughable that its last at when any third-party

candidate tries to be taken, seriously. Yeah, I mean that's what the the media does is they don't want to give you any attention and then their goal is to discredit you to a large expense, right? You know, especially as the world or the country becomes more and more polarized, the ringing in the restrictions of giving you are time, you know, disappears, meaning that in LA right now candidates to run for president will spend 1.2 billion dollars on the election, but if you are not getting any Media or every time to become to

them, that means an independent candidate would have to spend 2 to 10 billion. AJ Green. That's the first crazy, insane, hurdle, internet marketing, right. People are drawn swords with familiar more than the the, you know, something that's brand new. And so knowing somebody's face knowing the name of a person, just just being able to pay for marketing over and over and over again, even if you disagree with some of your more likely to pick them over somebody, you don't know. So, you know, is the first obvious fertile, right? Made the days. I mean, the debates are

probably the most important things for, you know, what candidates are to have any chance at winning. the debate the commission is controlled by the Democrats and Republicans, literally that the two parties choose every person that rose on it, and they based upon the pole, And so the polls are commissioned, you know, by them when when the polls that like run these programs call you, for example, they say who are you going to vote for? And if you said Brock Pierce, they say, well. That's not a choice, he's not part of the

questions. It is. You're either but picking the Democrat or Republican you're like one voting for Brock tears. They say all we're going to Mark you down as undecided. So it's so rigged that when the polls are conducted, they don't even include the other can. So you need to get 15% of the pole to be included in the debates. But how can you get 15% of the poles? If your name is not even included in the polls? Like you just layer on layer on layer of a system that has been entirely rigged by the last person to get into the debates, was

Ross, Perot. The debates were run in 1992 which was the women's league of Voters. As soon as Ross Perot got on that stage, they Stripped Away the rights of the women and gave it to a Democrat and Republican to control so that it could never happen again. Basically, any time something destructive happens, they patch the hole up and they make sure that it's sealed. Here's another one and I don't really want to criticize, try not to be negative. But at this is part of the story is just to show you some of the stuff but Los Angeles. I set up a campaign

headquarter there and then they reinstitute the lockdown and they decided that in the city of Los Angeles, that Campaigning is not considered an essential business. And so they outlawed democracy in the city of Los Angeles, during an election year, which what that does vision insurance, all the incumbents get reelected, it's a really powerful thing to stop. Anyone from Whitney that is not already in office in New York. So in 8 to get on the ballot in New York, you need 15,000 signatures or petitions.

And so, in the heart of covid-19, are cats, getting hit harder than anywhere in the world in April. You'd think that they'd consider electronic signatures cuz you can't collect signatures. Maybe they'd lower the bar, or maybe you're just so busy, you do nothing. What did they do? They increase the number to 45,000 the wipe out any candidate for being able to get on the ballot in New York and then Third parties, if they meet the requirements in the past elections, have the right to nominate you and to make sure that none of the third parties would

nominate anyone on the ballot in New York, the governor change, the rules there as well and said that, if you nominate a presidential candidate, New York and that candidate doesn't get at least 2% of the vote. The party is forever disbanded. So they just basically went like we're going to lose our part if we make a bet on some up-and-coming person that we are not sure and they made that no one made and I'm nominating by the independence party of New York, they called me Neo.

Every decade there's been one that actually had the Charisma of the skills that this to that. And Ross Perot was the one of the 90s and the last two candidates were Bloomberg and Trump. They were running as Independents. And then the other parties this year, will we got for this decade? And so they they had the safe to nominate me in the good news is I'm pulling for to 5% New York right now. So fresh foldable hundred and thirty thousand votes are looking very.

I think it's it's planting the seeds of actual. Democracy, right? Like that's that's the thing that that has always driven me nuts because I had, you know, like I said I was a punk rocker growing up and when I was younger, I like the idea of burning things down and all that stuff, but you don't understand the magnitude of what the actual violence means and is, when your, a teenager and then you grow up and growing up, shouldn't mean in doctoring yourself into the system, going up to me, growing up and understanding things more and maybe finding more

peaceful ways of changing things or maybe more elegant ways of doing things or maybe if you're talking to an Israeli, bring that analogy up other ways of doing things to do and stuff. So you know I love that because I, you know, Life, like you said, before politics aside, the more people vote, and the more people plant those seeds of Independence. The less people hopefully feel like they have to pick one. I don't even think they're polar extremes. I think they make us think that they're polar

extremes, but one side or another is not just two sides. There, isn't there more opportunities and I would make an argument that we only have one party. Yeah, you. And you're very, very well 10. And like I was joking before, I wasn't actually wasn't joking. I had a shirt when I was in a 19 years old, I had them. Not my president. Sure that had George. Bush's face on it. Right. I don't see much of a difference between any of the parties and who he was and what you represent, right? And at least being in the crypto space, I'll start looking at the banks in both those groups

and the bank's, I think our control more than any individual politician or any individual party, right? Because they pay for those and to be there, those crazy rules and laws that allow Corporate interests to pay for elections, essentially ARA, creating the system. So, you know, we got a minute left, and I've probably talked too much. I like, I'd like to hear what you have to say, but closing remarks and I, you know, planting the seeds of a change, right? Is that's how I would almost. Summarize. What you've been saying? Right to

give us, give us a close, you can go a little longer cuz it's the last session of the day. Yeah. Well as someone that is involved in studying systems and system design, I think we really have to take a step back and ask, what are we incentive izing? What is our goal in the United States? And I think a big part of our problem, and I don't blame any individuals that we don't have a goal. We don't have a unified goal, is shared vision for our Collective future. How do we measure our success in the past? How have we historically measured and held

our government to account its growth The problem with growth is it is assumed that we had infinite resources and I didn't like what is going on with West. You moved where she was wet. Tell all the land has been consumed and now that we can't keep this moving, you know, it's it and will keep trying to grow even though we know for why we don't have all those resources. It's creating lots of conflict. And so it's a big driver for conflict, because our measurement of success, our mindset of success growth. I want more more, more more more more, the younger brother, probably broke. If it doesn't

differentiate or distinguish between positive and negative Like getting American people, sick, free, and stroke, dancer creates for a blocking people in prison for each grow forest fires in California, create growth Hurricane Creek Road. Is that the kind of growth that we want? So I think we need to rethink. How we measure our success and what we incentivize the founders of this nation had a really incredible intention would because life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. What if

we started to measure our success by the life? Did you know that life expectancy in the United States is in Decline? What if we started measure R6S my life, expectancy UT different policy and see if they can pack in the private sector. The air, the water, the Earth would get clean her, we would get healthier, cuz that's how we would measure and hold our government to account Liberty. We supposed to be the land of the free. But our privacy in our freedoms are under threat. We lock up more people in prison, anywhere in the world, it would be the end of victimless crimes. It would

end the War on Drugs in all these sorts of things would happen. With, we started the measure, our success, by our freedom. And lastly, happiness, there are countries already around the world doing that. So I think we need to rethink the incentives rethink how we measure our success, and how we hold our government account. This is one of the many things I talk about. If you'd like to learn more, you can find out more at Rock. Boat. I'm on all the other social media. I was in Puerto Rico this morning. I was in town house this afternoon. I'm in Santa Fe New Mexico right now. I'll be in

Colorado tomorrow night if you're around. I'm traveling with Brittany Kaiser. Who many of, you know is my campaign manager, Carla Ballard. I think somebody might know whose my vice presidential running mate. And of course, a Khan, who is my my chief strategist? That is the, the face the campaign, I'll be in the neck. Few days in Utah, Idaho, Wyoming. Oh, come join up for the independent National Convention. The Inc in Wyoming, and share it with everyone, 23rd and 24th. It will be bigger than the

DNC and the RNC combined in his first year, this is, you know, we're thinking baby, we're thinking game-changing. And again, I'd like to remind you if you feel like getting involved then you want to be a part of this movement, please join us know and it's worth noting that there is a possibility, I could be president next year. The way it works is, I don't have to win the election to become president. This shocks, a lot of people there, like, what I'm talkin, the top political experts, cuz they're always like Brock, why are you doing there? Like I love, this is

actually kind of what the country needs, but why now, what can you possibly accomplish in this short period of time? I go? What did you know, I don't have to win to be president for life when you need to win. A majority of the Electoral College vote, the key word being majority 270 Electoral College votes or more. If the two major party candidates it would be. 260-9269 this is what happened in the year 1800 Thomas. Jefferson vs Aaron Burr or if a third party candidates such as myself would have been in one state.

Or even to bring Faith to the faithless and when electors, and if it were close enough race, it's possible that no one wins. So what happens if no one wins the election, the top three candidates are given to the House of Representatives and not the Democratic house, but the house chooses the president, each state gets one vote along with the District of Columbia whoever gets 26 votes, first wins if it were a split vote where the Republicans don't have enough to get the incumbent again, and the Democrats don't have enough to get the Democrat in. We may find ourselves in a

gridlock, in January, Nancy Pelosi would be coming in from her acting president. You know, it could get very interesting and it's conceivable that a compromise could be reached for that third-placed candidate. That is representing unity and love at a time where this nation is divided. And so when I explain this to the top people, they're like Who are you? How did you figure this out? It's not likely, but you actually just showed a path that's possible. You literally just showed me a path, it's possible. You could end up being president is not likely but it's

possible. This is crazy. How did you figure this out? But I might pull up the greatest hack, my it would be someone like me note to end on. I mean that one was it Dumb and Dumber that stupid movie. So you're saying there's still a chance that the whole rest of the last section of the day. I want to thank everybody for coming and you of course Brock for being here. You opened up. Our first show is at the end of the first day of this show. That was done on purpose. And, you know, this is an exciting time. We had thousands of people who not just joined us in the system today, but we

stream this live in a bunch of different places in on Twitter on Facebook, on Sada. On a bunch of our Media Partners because we said, if this is going to be free, let's let's have it everywhere. And where are we? Are we know that tens of thousands of people saw the stream today, unique individual. We're planting seeds for the future here too. And you know, we're really, really excited and what's going on to. Thank you so much broth. Thank you everyone who's listening will be back on bright and early tomorrow. Expect some recap email Tomas and all the spam and all the fun stuff. We're going

to send your way. And we'll share some of those details with Brock was just talking about with the convention and everything else that you do representing is super important in participating, soup and Reporting. Otherwise, we really don't have much of you. No leg to stand on. If complaining What's up, let's let's all change the world. Thank you for joining us Rockin New Mexico. I've got some stories about being a young punk in New Mexico, spreading democracy. Actually, I'm glad I didn't know you were, there two would have gone, a whole different and we're not to do that next time. All

right, guys, thank you so much.

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