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Eric Deggans
TV Critic at NPR
Michael Kosta
Correspondent at The Daily Show with Trevor Noah
Desi Lydic
Correspondent at The Daily Show
Dulcé Sloan
Comic|Actor|Correspondent at The Daily Show
Roy Wood
Correspondent at The Daily Show
Jordan Klepper
Comedian, writer, producer, political commentator, actor at The Daily Show

Eric Deggans is NPR’s first full-time TV critic, appearing on shows such as Morning Edition and All Things Considered. He also serves as a media analyst and contributor for MSNBC and NBC News and an adjunct instructor at Duke University’s Sanford School of Public Policy. Mr. Deggans came to NPR in September 2013 from the Tampa Bay Times, where he served as an arts critic and columnist for nearly 20 years. He is the author of Race-Baiter: How the Media Wields Dangerous Words to Divide a Nation, a look at how prejudice, racism and sexism fuels some elements of modern media. He has also guest hosted CNN's media analysis show Reliable Sources, chairs the National Association of Black Journalists' media monitoring committee and in 2019 served as the first African American chairman of the board of educators, journalists and media experts who select the George Foster Peabody Awards for excellence in electronic media.

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Michael Kosta (September 27, 1979) is an American stand-up comedian. In July 2017, he joined The Daily Show as a correspondent. He has also hosted The Comment Section for the E! Network with producer Joel McHale as well as co-hosting Fox Sports 1’s Crowd Goes Wild.

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Lani Desmonet "Desi" Lydic born June 30, 1981) is an American comedian and actress who is a correspondent on The Daily Show with Trevor Noah. From 2011 to 2016, she starred as guidance counselor Valerie Marks on the MTV comedy-drama series Awkward. She got her start in the 2001 parody film Not Another Teen Movie.[3] She also starred in the Spike miniseries Invasion Iowa alongside William Shatner, and the parody series The Real Wedding Crashers.[4] She appeared as Shea Seger in the 2011 film We Bought a Zoo alongside Matt Damon and Scarlett Johansson, and in the 2013 film The Babymakers with Olivia Munn. Lydic also appeared as one half of a lesbian couple on an episode of the Disney Channel series Good Luck Charlie in 2014. She joined Trevor Noah's lineup of correspondents for The Daily Show on September 29, 2015.

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Dulcé Lazaria Sloan (born July 4, 1983) is an American stand-up comedian, actress and writer. She is a correspondent for The Daily Show with Trevor Noah on Comedy Central

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Roy Norris Wood Jr. (born December 11, 1978) is an American humorist, comedian, DJ, actor, producer, and writer. He has served as a correspondent for The Daily Show on Comedy Central since 2015

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Jordan Klepper (born March 9, 1979) is an American comedian, writer, producer, political commentator, actor, and television host.Klepper began his career as a member of The Second City and Upright Citizens Brigade, where he met his wife Laura Grey. Soon after, they began writing, producing, and starring in their own short films. In 2014 Klepper became a correspondent on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart as host. He remained on the show (through the transition to new host Trevor Noah) until 2017, when he started his own satirical program, The Opposition with Jordan Klepper. The Opposition was cancelled in 2018, after one season. Klepper then starred in the 2019 docuseries, Klepper, which aired in 2019. He returned to The Daily Show in December 2019.

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Join The Daily Show with Trevor Noah’s News Team Jordan Klepper, Michael Kosta, Desi Lydic, Dulcé Sloan and Roy Wood Jr. in conversation with NPR’s Eric Deggans, where they’ll discuss how the Comedy Central late-night franchise tackles politics, race and social issues on the show—all during a global pandemic. From pivoting production to their living rooms to masking up for campaign rallies, the team will offer an inside look into what it takes to create The Daily Social Distancing Show.#DailyShowWFH

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Well, welcome to the South by Southwest Panner with correspondence from The Daily Show. With Trevor, Noah we're calling this The Daily Show news team content from their couches. I really don't want to know whether or not they're actually on their couch. We're just going to stay and we've got an All-Star Battle here with Desi lydic. Jordan klepper Michael Kosta, Dulce, Sloan and Roy Wood Jr. Now, Ronnie Chang was supposed to be with us, but he's like, filming a Marvel movie or do something way cooler and could join us. So, I'm just happy to have the guys.

Major major part in Justice League. But nobody said I just wanted to start with. We have you guys and thank you so much for joining us as we film is Donald Trump. He's lost re-election. He's on trial in the senate for impeachment for Insurrection. Can we just say job? Well done, are we done? Can we, can we just leave now? Is it all over? Never allow its all solved. Now we can walk away right after the hurricane leaves town. We got the cleanup crew has got to come in,

but but seriously, I guess everybody's trying to figure out and it seems kind of early to ask this but how come he's going to change now that we have somebody who sang in The White House? Do you have any sense? Now, in the, in the early days, I think might be different under by the administration. And with, with Trump out of the White House, there is a misconception that you can't do comedy without. Trump is President, he was in the live well before him and will be alive. Well, after him, in fact, if anything we have to mind deeper and harder and it isn't all just

low-hanging tweets about that. Would, that would be my short answer, you know. Our job is to arise the news and politics, and it's really hard to kind of like parody of parody when you get so absurd. Like, where do you even go from the, how do you hiding from the craziness? I'm kind of looking forward to things being a little bit, not even with ShopRite. Perspective, one, do I care about this into? I'm able to do something with this comedic relief that you had to choose. The Donald Trump comes in

and he chose the news for us. And so I look back to getting back to a little bit of a position of deciding what it is. We want to actually weigh in on and what it is. We actually have something to say about freeing and exciting for me because there are only so many Donald Trump jokes. You can make a million but we but there's only a finite resource and Erica want you to remember that. You're getting that information from one of the correspondence has always been face to face with the Trump supporters, pretty much

sense of it terms if I'm not mistaken. And it just sounds like Hope in comedy in the era of Donald Trump debate with qanon supporters, about the end of the world. That's that's all I'm asking. No, I ate a vicodin pills with the checks in the mail. They've been telling me that for you, so I'm sure I'm sure they will really take care of it. Really pays off in the back of inspiration to check. They say it's over at CVS. If they're not doing that now, rest assured, they're going to do it after they said, I know, I know it's early days

again, but do you have any sense about how, he might be different in the post Trump era? Has he chasing changes in a way that even though he's not setting the news agenda? The way we talk about the stuff can be different. People want us to think that things are going to be different, but the formula of Comedy, hasn't changed. The structure of Comedy hasn't changed to the point where things are going to become brand new. So, you know, now it's just going to be making jokes about another old white man. Who's the president of this one's not

trying to kill everybody. So I think the only big difference is going to be it's that Trump was a reality, you know, named Riley star. Go back in the grand scheme of things, we shouldn't have even known who he was. He sold real estate and had businesses. There's plenty of people to do that in New York and note in their name. Isn't on building. You don't know nothing about him, he wanted to shine. He wanted to get on it whenever I don't know who he would and now you're down as the only president was impeached twice, something graduation. But when it comes to Comedy,

the structure of Comedy, the bones of Comedy hasn't changed is just now. We don't have to talk about this man who is taking up so much bandwidth because that's what he wanted now. It's you know what he was saying? He was a parody of a parody and now it gives us the opportunity to really just do the parody cuz then cuz everything was before we had to reverse-engineer what he was doing. This is outrageous. Normal has been make. It's funny now it's his right to make it funny. So if anything, we don't have to deal with this nonsense anymore.

I do think there's like a conversation that I know I'm having with producers in the field and other writers and other correspondence is like in this period of time. We do talk a lot more now about how much publicity we might want to give something that there is even though we're here to tell jokes, and we're here to shine a spotlight on issues. Like, is there a responsibility in talking a lot about qanon or talking about? Like, should we be giving certain subjects PR? Is there a, is there a balance? Is there like a? A way to do that in a funny

way without necessarily like heightening the movement or the momentum of something like that? You know those are in and I don't I don't have an answer for it but they're certainly conversations that we're having this new era now and that's interesting to me because like that's a conversation you'd expect to have like at a news Outlet Like I was taught your guy's job was just to tell jokes, but it's nothing that you that you take on that responsibility and worry about giving qanon or giving truck. Cuz that's what, that's what

everybody's asking. Why can't you ignore Trump? Now that he's out of the White House? I think we start with what we care about, and it's very hard to shoot down a pitch, even though it happens every day, if the corresponding, or the producers are passionate about it. So, there are always joke to be found. I mean, maybe not every piece. You can find jokes. It's too serious or too sad. It's kind of like with Clepper was saying, now that Trump is gone, it is kind of nice because we can pitch a little bit more about what we

are about as opposed to just reacting to the headline or the Tweet today. Is today, is people arguing about how Insurrection didn't matter and you can't hold them. Accountable. In fact, the Senate is not going to hold him accountable, and they just gave half of an entire party. Gave a pass to Acumen on viewing lunatic in the house who is says, their space legs are starting wildfires that's happening. Today in O'Fallon going out on the road and talking out their folks and Trump supporters, you're not talking to future house candidates and other people that have now, been infected by this

been given this misinformation and are now attempting to be a part of the culture in a different way. And so there might be less of a focus on Donald Trump places. Like, The Oath Keepers isn't going to pop off and effect folks, it doesn't mean Josh Holly's any more of a piece of shit and I think because of that, he will rocks. The lockdowns happened and everyone had to work from home, so we could see on the screen, what that was, like, for, for Trevor, but what was it like, for you guys, when they show up? When we have the

lockdowns, everybody had to work from home and you had to figure out how to make things happen in a different way of it, because it was, alright. We're going to see these lies are the standing stones admitted that? Cuz I doubt he would tell you that somehow, she connected her iPhone cuz I sent this iPhone to film on. The easiest, the maneuver is somehow connected. Her personal iPhone for the work phone and then somehow cost of connected, his phone to some work account. So then

so he was getting like pictures of Desi, son. And now pasta know when Desi Parents anniversary is It's Nicole work-life balance Are No Boundaries anymore. I can't be on the check was figuring out the performance within this box and how that's a correspondent. We have certain to meet at tools and you start, you. You understand how much being in the room with this person helps to create some of the tension or some of the awkwardness and you lose that on Zoom, so it was figuring out ways and

literally and how to work. How do you go through this conversation in the way that still funny and tracks with all your singing is this? You start figuring out ways to kind of walk out of frame and I don't give away all the tricks but overtime started learning at and then you know we do that maybe I could put up a green screen. Can you put face and everybody green screens? And then she is giving us references on microphones and condensers and sound dampeners. So it's definitely Building the plane in the air but you know, thankfully everybody

started out at the same place in a nutshell. It took a global pandemic to get actors to actually appreciate the tech. I will say, I have never had respect for our crew and how many people it takes to put together a TV show? And it is it's so hard. So funny because now that I'm doing it, I've never had less respect for us. So when Michael of Drops Out of Rain, did somebody unplug something? Cuz they got upset and there are huge hurdles. Technically there's also a huge hurtled

emotionally. I mean, we are in our homes. I don't want to show everybody my bedroom. I don't want to show people where I eat dinner with my family was drinking after that. After that bit that don't, they did what she's looking at everybody's backgrounds. I'm afraid for you to even see what is the you read back in Berry to see a book that says race-baiter. So I knew that it would be with my friends back home and in Michigan and their background is a pool or

a tree in La. They got like, avocados behind. This is New York, in tiny Apartments. With families and it's, it's brutal. Who sang? I live together in Queens. Costumes. Absolutely. Right. Cuz I was shooting for something and then like oh where can you shoot somewhere else in your house? And I was like no this is my house to get to see this many people have asked me. Is that a bathroom curtains? This doesn't look like a bathroom to you. What we talked about,

I didn't see that conversation in. So that's when the main thing it's about. Always I was talking through cuz I was when I was like, who is this do you hold this? Mike? What's going on for me to be in here? Doing this on my own? And I got to go to school. I have a degree in none of this stuff is happening right here. I didn't, I didn't, I didn't sign up for that. I'm town is born to do all this other stuff. Is that? It's been a lot. I mean, I'm glad to learn it cuz I know all the technicalities decorations, but the money over here, I get a man.

Other than that it is. It's a, it's a full-on family affair. My, my husband is like off and holding the camera. I'm like prying this scooter from my five-year-old pan so that I can set up a dolly shot, like we are, it is all hands on deck at all times. So it's, yeah, we're definitely learning all angles of it. And after the lockdown happened, you guys were forced to work from home. They packed an extra 15 minutes on this show was that cuz maybe you might get more Sana reported that make it even tougher because you you got more time and

exploring the conversations with with the guests. And you can tell you can just watch the interviews in the thirties, versus the 45. And Trevor is really pursuing his curiosity with the guess. The thing is that, as we got better at this, the time and I know Caster can vouch for me on this where the time to turn around time from idea, to conception, to edit to it, from conception to are cut shorter and shorter and shorter, it would be on Monday. Can you shoot this Thursday? What type of equipment do you have? And somewhere around November December, it was yeah, we're going to shoot this

tomorrow. Now you might get it, you might be email to script at 10 in the morning that shoots at one. That's on the show that night. Figure it out. I know your babysitter is hiding in Canada till they can get the vaccine. So you've got to bribe your child and you don't cost me and Clipper in a different situation because they have infants that don't understand English yet. So I tell you what, the 45 the show is now, reverting creatively back to what it was. When it was in studio will be, can be a little bit more reactive to new in the immediate, but because we'd

have to take figured out. We know how to do everything now. So now, it's, it's tougher in the sense that things can spring up on you and you're still juggling your regular life. While that stuff is happening, one of many correspondence, I think we all welcomed the idea that there be more show. Oh, and more opportunity for our pieces to be a little bit longer prior to 45 minutes. There was a 30 minute show, but there's a lot of stuff that landed on the cutting-room floor so we can extend some of that stuff. Now, people are all at home. Trying

to watch content. So 45 minutes is good, if they consume more of The Daily Show in Royce, right? As we got bit, I mean, nothing phases, this show. And I don't say that, as I'm part of that, when they said that, that this show is going to go on despite the pain dymek. I thought everybody was insane, I thought the executive producers have lost their mind. How can we possibly do that? I don't even know if I have Skype, you know. It is it all seems impossible and yet they took two days off, 3 days off of air. And we were the first ones out airing

broadcasting the show immediately and that's a testament to the staff that the leaders and also Trevor who's like why are we stopping? Let's keep going. And I I was reluctant at first and then seeing how they did it and they ain't nothing fazes. Then I just kept going. There's not enough credit given to the folks who who are constantly creating Around The Daily Show, like the correspondence, the writers. Trevor Trevor, give him space and he filled it with his curiosity and his intellect. That is such a sweet spot. We have a digital team that is that is constantly creating things

24/7, pulling things together old clip, making new ideas, and pointing from the show, adding things to the show, I feel Department, I just had to figure out how to make stuff work in somebody's apartment, but I'll, I'll to reinvent. So that doesn't get boring with green screens to see what. Like, cuz they working with CDC requirements to see where we can shoot, how to travel to those places. I'd like to even the few field shoot, for able to do. I do if you don't shoot that I could only talk to humans. If there was a body of water between us until I literally interview people

between boats and and I do think that is the spirit of the show is we're going to make TV tonight out of whatever happens today. Look at the smartest people you can but I'm going to wear a bunch of hats. It's you're not just somebody doesn't one thing on. Daily Show. You do a bunch of things and I do think that's part of the reason the show has thrived during this because it's asking everybody, like we're a bunch of hats, be as creative as you can and work fast. And luckily, that's been there since day one, but I wanted to ask you a particular, I mean, you've you've crafted the space where

you're going out and talking to the trumpets, your you went to the attack on the capital, we just saw this piece where you talk to some of people were still out. There is this comedy Central's way of getting rid of you and they can't get rid of me. They tried to cancel me, you know? I'm here to stay baby, send me, your middle of covid. These people but is it, is there a danger in Stuart of having too many pieces where you know that the focus of it is looking like crazy. These people

are cuz that I just got can't believe how crazy this people are. If it's while to see the way folks react, but to be honest, like that is. I think if people are shocked at what happened on, January 6th, we've been chronicling that since day one. I do think like, what I am proudest of is like we go there. No offense, any of the late night shows, but they weren't at the Capitol, what it was being attacked by his Direction and talking to folks who I'd seen it other route. Talking about the same BS that they push their, why they're pushing it there, because the strongest, most powerful man on

Earth and giving them permission to do that. And so, I do think, like, it's been scary since day one. And, you know, there's always the conversations about, like, what are we giving are too and what have you? I think when I go to those rallies, it wasn't us, just trying to find the dumbest thing being said, what we're tapping into is what was being said at those rallies, like These are the conspiracies that are going on with the mindset. This is the misinformation that now they coming from somebody, like Donald Trump who has all the power, but it's coming from media Outlets, like, 5 news,

max oan crafting this narrative and tell him, I love finding the comedy in that. I love going to places and see what people actually think, actually being there. But I do feel like it's important for people to see that. It's not just one crazy guy in the Oval Office. This, this point of view spreads its out there and it's become ideology, and it's become identity, and it's become an American identity that, that sometimes we have to, we have to Grapple with, and we're not just going to grab with it, through won election. So I'm going to ask a question that may be

controversial, but I want to know, most all of you and does that really get more of your pieces on the air Desi? I just have to say, I think what Trevor is doing during this moment in time is just unbelievable. No. One can start a conversation. Like, Trevor Noah. I have never seen Talent OR intellect like that ever before in my life and I am looking for a raised, right about now, I do what I ask you do. I love you do then you've done about Fox News, both be

explaining and you know, talking to your Aunt, Jeanine, Pirro in. And it seems like Fox News has kind of been an interesting. Is that an interesting point now, is that a kind of a is having a crisis of identity. It's got two major competitors. For the first time, what what's your sense about weird? That is going and what kind of, do you think you can? Maybe can mind from that. I'm very curious to see what they do from here. Run out how Fox shifts its narrative. I think in a way they might get crazier because they've got to

compete. So I don't I mean I don't think Fox News is going anywhere in terms of like, you know, that spending the crazy narratives and and yeah, I know that they've got some some competition lurking. But, you know, my conservative family members, don't know how to find those channels but they do know how to find Fox News. So I think there's still a base there, I don't know. I mean, I I'm very interested in all of that and seeing how it plays out You know what? It feels like. It feels like when MTV expand it to end in TV, too. And

so, like, it's like interviews were like the older gen-xers went. And that's what I, that's what those networks feel like. They feel like the world that's really extreme. And I just think that that's probably why she's created competition for Fox News. Like, that's That's unheard of to ask you. I mean once again we're in this moment where black women have saved us from Oblivion and you know I have we shown the appropriate. Thanks to Stacey Abrams and Kamala Harris and an LLC for pulling us back from the

brink of Oblivion the way they have. And you never will you never can know, we gave her her flowers as often as we can Stacey Abrams from the home-state. We tried we can but at the end of the day, it's stop looking for us to pull us out. That's the thing that is like the piece about, you know, Black Alabama, saving them. And that woman did that, is it for the people looking at black women to save them, but they're not doing anything. And I put themselves in this situation in the first place also, what benefit

would be here for safer, who's helping at? Because y'all want to think black women, for saving somebody you need to have Justice for breonna Taylor. That's what you need to do. Any situation is like it's like I don't want to be Superman. Stop making me quit getting positive side of a building, okay? But messing with these stupid feeling but being in danger and I'll have to help you. Like it's and it's okay. It's a weird place. Was just like we do black women. Say this again and just like, we didn't do it for you. We

saved ourselves. You you were, you just got the collateral benefit. I didn't wake up being my up. How can I make sure that everybody else is more okay than me once again Office, Alabama? Because he's a monster. That's what we did. Was go to get, people out to vote, but doing all these things the whole time or just finally, not getting recognition for it, but not waking up. I didn't wake up with my hair and makeup on the whole deposited. Well, in his interview, I don't care. A broadside to Custer from dike

nowhere. We were joking about this earlier, but you guys are the most diverse late night show and it does have an NAACP nomination, look what we got, what we did, and he was so happy as a young junior tennis champion. I never thought I would be nominated by the NAACP and I am the same point of view that is generally. What is so unique about us? Any story? You close your eyes and you point to a newspaper you get an article. We got somebody who can cover. That's amazing. That's what I wanted to ask you. If you

could talk a little bit about how you guys talk about it. She's differently because she has so much to do Play, nnn because your lab buy some. I like Trevor who also has experienced a lot in his talked, a lot about this is culture have the best voice for it. Cuz when there's women's pieces, there's me and Desi when they're, you know, black pieces. There's me and Roy when we have to yell at the conservative in America, there is, you know, Desi class in Clopper. But I think what we have done is that when there's a story, it's not always

hears. The black story. Roids, Osage Ibuki go. Sometimes it's what's the best way to tell it from a comedic angle who is the best person to tell it from a comedic angle cuz a lot of time cuz sometimes it will have stories and you know it'll get it was one correspondent and when we look at it it's oh you know what? We should change the course by lit on that. It should be, you know, Desi instead of War. Who picked, who does this, who does this? Because sometimes it's not always the obvious choice isn't always the funniest choice.

And you know, Trevor, when I first got there, you know, Trevor was telling us when it comes to ideas for pictures, it was either look at the obvious thing. Now, look at the exact opposite side of it or the side that you don't agree with. And a lot of times that opposite side, you can find more comedy in that you can find with send whoever that's going to be a perfect fit. So I think what we do is as much as we are divers were telling I think it's worth telling diver stores and were able to tell diver stories because we have a

diverse group of people. But we're still thinking about who's the best person to tell this story? And I think also not just from a comedic standpoint, but also from the people that were interviewing who are they going to be most comfortable with? Because if you're going to be more open with the particular correspondent, do you know last month on the akas and their relationship with, black woman? You know? And if she's busy maybe being always busy and you flip it to that same two that opposite that Trevor

was talking about, you know, I just think we also are in a time where people are becoming a little more. People viewers are becoming more conscious about who is telling their story and who is attempting to Champion their voice. I think that's something that it's, it's, it's part of figuring out who goes out the door, I'm not going to say that. That's the most important thing is no reason why I should be taking the lgbtq story. Unless there's a specific reason, creatively, that it makes sense for me over jaboukie. So it's that part of it. I think that's what it gives us a leg up on, you can

send anybody and anybody can be comfortable talking to us as well. That's why we should Clipper to the rallies to talk to all the white men and not me. I did want to ask you, you know, you sort of inherited, exactly. You should have inherited the goofy, white guy. That we saw get handed down from like, Colbert to Ed Helms. Did Rob Riggle, Jordan. Even had it for a little while. I think I'm just going to do me dirty like that. If, if goofy white guy helps you get the career of those, four people, you just mentioned that you're fine with that. But I don't know if it's a, I don't know if it's a

guarantee, but I think it's great that the show has kind of created a space where you can sort of talk about why cluelessness in a way, and it seems like you and you've done that Jordan's done that. Can you talk a little bit about finding that space on a show where again, you know, we talked about kind of the diversity and how you guys pride yourself on being with a bunch of different stuff. Well, I think it works because I probably don't think I am that clueless, you know, so it's a little bit like, oh, I can't be this clueless but then, as I read some of the words, I'm like, I

did think that one. So I look there's a lot about the white male. Stereotype bit, I fit. But also, I would love that. I would love to make fun of and I am sure everybody was in reference to their gender, their sexual orientation and their race. There are parts of those things that they also think deserve to be ridiculed. So, for me to wear a full Windsor knot, a tie and talk about how rich white kids should get preferential treatment when applying to college, that is funny.

And by talking about that, in a serious tone at through my character, it 100% points out that it's ridiculous and it's fine. You know, I think it's not do. Sometimes people show up to my stand-up shows on the road and go. Hey, that's not the guy we saw on The Daily Show. What's, why can't you do that skit? And I got what, you know, it isn't actually me sometimes that happens, but I get to tell jokes to a camera prior to pandemic with Emmy award-winning. Performers writers producers, it is like comedy PhD

school. So if I get to play the guy that gets kicked in the nuts, six times in a row and one sketch. I'm okay with that because they don't always put me in that role. And you know, I also get the pitch things about why I think the Great Lakes are important and they are kind enough to send me to Toledo Ohio, and do a whole piece about how Lake Erie should have a Bill of Rights and actually have the same rights as a person and and has become a person legally. So I got to do some serious stuff. And I also get to do the, oh my God, I just threw up in my mouth and swallowed, again piece, which

is fine idea, of finding your voice as a correspondent. What was that process like? And is there ever a point when you start to feel like you're there like, you like you kind of know where your voice is on the show? Used to be really angry. Early on. I wonder if that was just a remnant of my stand-up comedy seeping into my role as a correspondent but even my first piece, I was angry about them saying, we're going to Mars. Are you angry about that? When you look at

the ship that we look at the way Trevor restructured, The Daily Show tonally after John. There's a place for anger but anger has to have a purpose and so it took me Survival gear 2 to not let anger be the driving emotion through a piece and you could find the things that are in crystals. You can find the stuff. This outrageous everyone is mad about this. So mean joining you and being angry isn't always going to be the best way to inform and educate and present. Again like Dulce, say to the

other side and show a different way through the topic. And that's where you're able to find a lot of new comedy. And, you know, I think that behind a lot of anger is hurt. So if you can find her, you can usually tap into what people are feeling without matching their level of screaming and yelling back in the day, Prisoner John pretty classic correspondent rule which I can iron it on this heightened dumb white guy version and irony is the number one thing you have in your tool belt and anyone over the last five. This year's one

leg Trevor came in. As did Donald Trump acid like a seismic change in a bunch of stuff and like over the course of the year old personality to that thing. So like a straight iron, it wasn't playing as much parsley because that's felt a little bit dated parsley because Donald Trump was hyperbole in and of itself. So it was hard to out drunk and is in a few felt that skill set and the corresponding sort of shift and so does myself and I feel like even now like coming back and doing stuff on the show,

like you still play with, you still play with the white guy in that character, that is there. But I think Donald Trump Strip people away of their BS. I know you were just versions of yourself in some way and so I think that's part of that. It was really fun to play to, it's like I see myself going to lie, I can use that tool here in there. More. Often than that, what people respond to is, like, they see yourself within that character, because that's kind of weird, he is right now. If we want to see authenticity, even if you are using other comedic tools, you

have to be able to show them what your point of view is underneath. And not just live so far away from what the other point of view, that person, whose experience that might be that makes sense. In in Jordan, I got to say, man, I have all the respect for you because I love that interview. You did with Adam Schiff or where you got him to say batshit on cam. Like that was really a lot of a lot of seasoned journalist have tried to get powerful people to swear, but what you do is, if you stand out in the cold, Go ask somebody for long enough with stupid

questions, you will get them to swear and then you will put that on the Comedy Central. And you earn your health insurance for a week. I'm hoping that the thing is, is, yeah, yeah, we'll get back to you on that. So I didn't want to ask you guys too. And this is something that we talked about before we started you been doing this for a while now without an audience and I wonder did you see things eventually getting back to the point where you get to have a studio audience and are there things that you've learned from this pandemic experience

that, maybe you think, you could retain, you could keep doing even if you get back to the point where you're in a studio and and you're performing for a crowd again. I do think what, you know, we will eventually get back to the point where we can be with our audience and be back in the studio. We have no idea when that's going to be obviously. But but one interesting thing that's happened in this. Of time is, is I think the show overall has been able to take more risks with certain jokes. You can go a little bit darker, you can go at something with a different pace. You can

take chances that you might not be able to otherwise in front of the audience cuz you don't know how they're going to react or you might have to time something in such a way that, you know, that the audience is going to have this reaction. And I think like a creatively, I know the writers have had a lot of fun with that. I think Trevor is having a lot of fun with that. It it this version of the show totally is is different and it's kind of a cool creative exploration and in a way and I think some of those risks might Kind of continued throughout even when we do go back

into the studio, we might be able to still kind of play around with that. Y'all are scared of like your timing being off and get back to the studio to sight. When we first started instinctively, I'm like pausing for a LabCorp that we're not performing a conversation. I'm just having a conversation with Trevor so stylistically now for like a year now at this point of no audience and like my fears at the moment, we go back with an audience. I'm just going to start talking to Trevor again proudest laugh. And I'm just like shut up

talking. Like that's that's my biggest fear. Is that how this will alter us as a performer? I got to get back out on the stage and do stand up at some point. I mean, I was pretty used to performing jokes and not having a lot of laughter. So for me, this felt very comfortable Olympic swimmers will train in like, for bathing suits and then The Olympic meat comes out, they just wear one bathing suit so they feel faster. I feel like this is our for bathing suit wearing time, you know, where like performing comedy for nobody and even though they even though there is somebody and

we're thankful that there's people watching, but it feed, there's no immediate feedback. And if there is immediate feedback and if one of your takes was so hilarious, all you hear is a delayed Zoom response from the producer that says, okay, let's do that again. So I'm looking forward to the audience coming back in 2039 and this is what you do. It's it's weird though as a as a viewer. I thought I saw on on the show the different way of cutting segments like a bastard suit of editing techniques to make up for the fact that you didn't have

people laughing and and and reacting anymore, I was wondering, is that was that something that happened? Did you have a sense that Even the editing style of the show changed a little bit to get to the jokes quicker because you didn't have an audience aggression changed successfully, you know? And I think you're right to pick up on that are. I don't know if it was a decision but look, The Daily Show, does not stop creating comedy and it is, it is evolving and progressing, and adjusting and moving every single day and that's what they do. Well, I'll let the others answer

decision made cuz like, I don't, I know whatever is all right now cuz no one's in the studio is on the way to sat fat, but I can say that for me, I don't have a decision was made, I can't sit, it does feel different and fill it. With the Fieldpiece has kind of been the way we interview was different cuz it's talking through a screen as opposed to being in person. but watching, Trevor I see because I've done, you know, doing the show for this long and, you know, being a comedian, you still feel where the lives are. So even you're

not even though I don't really hear an audience and he's not like paws and I can feel as a comic in here watching the show, and it's like, oh, there's the last, there's a left, but sometimes I laugh in between, but you can still feel The jokes. You can still feel what's hitting. And it still feels like it's hitting the same cuz, like, for us, we watch for her. Like we don't want us to do. We watch rehearsal. So, a lot of times it's we, we, we heard last would be just a few of the crew guys. Anyway, so I see you sometimes and I watch the show. I always treated like I'm

watching rehearsal and it's like I could feel where the laugh is Odyssey. So just got to go. Would Trevor specifically is that there's a lot more camera turns and there's a lot more graphic overlays and it sounds crazy to say, but it's easy to add that type of stuff in this setup, that it is in a studio set-up and turn it. Like something like Blue's Clues on his face. Like it was just as simple as just adding a filter and post and sell those types of things are in a box. So anything you can add, if it's a character, I love the fact that we still take

shots of Spirit Airlines flight. Those things somehow still remain in the show, but I don't think that those things inherently. Yeah, I don't think that's creatively. These are too many vehicles that we would have explored right away and Studio because the studio you have so much more higher tick stuff available. It would have been a full conversation about a Blues Clues graphic build out in comedy sketch, Tik-Tok Fields, is everybody gets it because we're all living in the same

world from a technical standpoint. So, certain jokes that would be considered simple in the Frito the times are on par with the way, everyone consumes information. Now, so much energy to the show. Also in the past like being able to do it in front of a live audience. There's energy to that, there's momentum to that. So now we're sort of trying to get creative with infusing energy and pace and momentum into the show that we, that we're not getting from the audience. So, luckily, We have really spilled editors who can Quicken the pace, you can do camera turns in

and take creative Liberties to kind of make up for that I'm here and I wanted to ask you guys maybe a couple of you it, if it comes to mind, what's your favorite bit that you've come up with during the pandemic? So the lock down when you been working from home and and and if you think I'm doing that, but you learned something that you're going to carry forward into the work that you do in in the show in the future? I'll answer for it so you guys can come up with something. One of my

favorite pieces, was this parody of a travel show that I did in my. Yeah, I did in my apartment, I was reluctant. If you can't tell, I'm reluctant a lot. Eric you were talking about being in a small apartment, you have a great apartment and this is just a city house. George Jordan. You might want to have your people talk with Michael cuz they both have health care. That was literally opening the door of my home to our viewers. And my initial reluctance was

was met with a lot of positive feedback about the piece. It was really funny and also I was like hey hey old man. Winter over here. Maybe, he's different now. Maybe you have to show a little bit of your home. Maybe you're going to have to set up a tripod and a camera up in your bathroom. I'm definitely one that likes to stay in the comfort zone and and what I've learned in my three years for years of The Daily Show Now, is they will take me out of the comfort zone and they will do so successfully, you know. I sometimes am reluctant to do it, but I like that piece because it showed that

we can produce funny comedy with serious committed handcuffs on right now and they're continuing to do that and I'm really proud of it. It's similar off of wit, said, I too felt reluctant about the fact that you were shooting at our house and everything feel so personal and you can see my bedroom in the background and I've got my kid running around when my dog is over in the corner. And, you know, there was one piece that I did with. We were interviewing family doctor, right? At the beginning of covid, right? At the beginning of the lockdown and my four-year-old at the time was at

home. School is not in session. We were doing homeschool and my husband was on a work call and my son walked into the room during the interview and I had no choice but to just kind of go with it and use it. So it it would ended up being something that we used in the peace. And we've continued to dip into from time to time. If if there's an interruption, it's like you know what, it's going to happen. Let's just go with it and they ended up hearing from some of my parents friends. They were like, oh my God, I love that moment when he came in like a Does that all the time when I'm

on the phone? And it's just like you do. There's an intimacy and they feel there's something about recording right now. Just feels more personal and that never would have happened at the studio. Yeah, and I have this feeling that some of that is going to retain that they were going to see. I will definitely, I will definitely continue to use my child as a crush and, and comedy actually started to use Daddy's child as a committed crutches. Well, so, I tried to cut my son's hair

and it was very terrible. That is very terrible and he told me it was terrible for and even at 4, she knew a terrible haircut when you seen one it. So, we ended up and then roll it into a segment where I just got on the phone with my barber and we did a segment where I just tried to learn how to cut my hair at home, and that was the surface. How much the beauty shop in the black barber shops? Because black people Because of the issues of mental health for not having the healthcare team, be

able to afford, and it's real important barbazzar and there are a lot of Bart, there are a lot of Barbers who just get calls from their clients even though they couldn't come into the shop because they still missed connection. So that was the one piece that I think I've done at home that I think was the most birth from something that I'm actually going through on a red light 2 days. He's worried about you. No good. Almost at your child's real name to see. I ain't give it away cuz I don't want them people to nuts into the the

room. You know, it looks like it's it's cool to be able to take these little things that are happening in your life and go. What if it's happening to me, is probably happening to somebody else in? This wasn't even bigger issue that the tackling the thing in the politician, and take you down and passed the referent now. I just don't know how to cut my hair and it turns out clients missed a barber to. So, let's talk to you about it. When you going to field pieces before all this happened, it's such a bond between the, The Producers, the performer or the sound guy. The two camera, guys. You

all your, your team going to travel to these places. And now during the quarantine, that's all different, and what I found is Alachua piece of had to do. I go solo alone in my car and it is wonderful. If I put on like, Bob, Dylan albums, and my wife will never. Let me play Like Mondays. Bob, Dylan and nobody wants to hear. And I just Going out and it is perfect. And when this all gets back to normal, I will not travel with anybody I work with and I will I will get the apples ahead and

drink some mushroom coffee real thing. Jill or ask Monsta X. Shrooms. He's not even hot. He's just drinking funky Silver's of up a little bit. He would tell me about mushroom coffee and I just went, I'm okay. Scores of bodies were The Daily Show for joining us for this special South by Southwest Battle. The Daily Show news team content from their couches, not their bathrooms there. Couches many, thanks, the desert. Jordan klepper, Michael Kosta Dulce Sloan and Roy Wood Jr. Guys, I had so much fun. I could talk to you for like 2

hours. One to ten, Ren background wrote a book problem is is booked cannot be purchased by everybody unless they get put on a list. Probably likes to keep tabs on who bought that. Damn book also had to put your picture next to a full reason. I see a plat of some sort, I see framed if he framed art, So I see you accomplished. I can see some type of article in the frame of some type of certificate below it. I don't know if you earn something or you own a sip and paint that can easily happen. A

lot of books that are vertical and horizontal. This is one of them bookcases worse just like listen, I read books but like I don't want to be like a bookcase guy, so imma give it a strong. I'm going to stop eight color schemes off that great. Thank you guys so much, man. I've bailed him out with you. This was the highlight of my week, for sure. Thank you guys so much. Thank you. Eric by.

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