David Andrew Burd (born March 15, 1988), better known by his stage name Lil Dicky, is an American rapper, comedian and actor. He came to prominence with the release of the music video of his song "Ex-Boyfriend" on April 25, 2013, which became popular with more than one million views on YouTube in 24 hours. He released his debut album Professional Rapper on July 31, 2015.In 2018, his song "Freaky Friday", featuring Chris Brown, became a worldwide hit. He also gained attention for his 2019 music video "Earth", which featured many singers and actors including Ariana Grande, Justin Bieber, Ed Sheeran, Shawn Mendes, Kevin Hart, Wiz Khalifa, Charlie Puth, Katy Perry, and Leonardo DiCaprio. The song was made to raise awareness about the environment, pollution, and climate change. Burd stated that a portion of the song's proceeds are being donated to a variety of environmental charitiesView the profile
Saladin K. Patterson is currently an executive producer of the FXX comedy series DAVE. Prior to that, he was the showrunner of the TBS series The Last O.G. starring Tracy Morgan and Tiffany Haddish. Patterson is a native of Montgomery, Alabama and is an M.I.T. alumnus with a degree in Electrical Engineering. He also received his M.A. in Psychology from Vanderbilt University. Patterson’s unique background recently contributed to him being chosen to serve on a special subcommittee of President Obama’s Job Council, comprised of entertainment professionals with backgrounds in science and engineering. He now resides in Los Angeles, California.jeffView the profile
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Hailed by Rolling Stone as one of the best TV shows of 2020, FXX’s DAVE is based on the life of Dave Burd (aka Lil Dicky), and centered on a neurotic man who’s convinced himself that he's destined to be one of the best rappers of all time. The critically-acclaimed first season explored ambition, mental illness and masculinity in the world of hip-hop. Join co-creator/executive producer/writer/star Dave Burd (aka Lil Dicky), co-creator/executive producer Jeff Schaffer, executive producer Saladin Patterson and series star GaTa for DAVE’s first panel at SXSW. Season 1 is available on FX on Hulu; season two will premiere on FXX in 2021.
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Now, this is going to sound so absurd. But before I can just show you my penis, I do have to kind of explain a few things about it to you. Okay. I am Alan sepinwall, cheap TV critic at Rolling Stone and host of the too long. Didn't watch podcast, and it is my pleasure to bring you even virtually the stars and creative team behind the absolutely fantastic. F, x x comedy. Dave please welcome Siri star gator Please welcome executive producer, and writer of Saladin Patterson. please welcome
co-creator, executive producer and writer, Jeff Schaffer Everybody. And and in addition to being co-creator, executive producer and writer, he plays the Title Character gave himself, please welcome, Dave burd. Alright. Alright. Let's see your friend later start than that, guys. Dave, what kind of TV did you watch growing up? Things that pop into my head or Fresh Prince of Bel-Air Curb, Your Enthusiasm Seinfeld friends. Those are the things that are popping into my head Martin. So I, what
point did you have it in your head that you might want to actually make a television show? Honestly, when I was like, I might as well as long as I can remember. As a young boy, I wanted to be like a comedian, and when I envisioned what that look like, it was not like me on stage doing stand-up. It was always like movies or TV, so I don't know that I was thinking, I need to make a TV show about my life, but I was always like, I want to be a comedian and I think my favorite version of that is on screen. So I feel like I've always known that from my earliest memories and was there
a, I'm sorry. I left my point out to other shows that Dave mentioned that he was as a child or show. Did you have worked on? I just my ARP card literally materialized right in front of me. I found the right guy that I found the right guy. I work with your grandpa. All right. Watching curb though was it was their point. It would you look at that said, oh wait a minute like this, I could do something in this kind of format. There wasn't a member at my friends app to twins.
The first time, I had like a revele, I was like, oh my God, like I kind of behave like him as much as it is perspective. And I think for the very first time that I met you, Dave, the thing that intrigues me the most was, I saw that there was a lot of Larry in you and meaning that whether you are a rapper or whether you were an ice-cream salesman or an accountant, the way you interacted with the world. The way, you had problems with things, that people may not have problems with the way you decided to just scratch that it's on the back of your neck that most people would just not scratch
reminded me a lot of the way Larry views the world. And that was what was that's what immediately drew me to you. I like holding people accountable. Gator, would you say that he, he tends to hold you accountable, you up here with the best. Like I'm always been in depression there, but it just makes me better. Telling me what were your expectations of what the show would be like in and it did the actual experience of working on it. Meet those expectations. Probably as many people may do I probably underestimated
just how you know like thoughtful and in deep and meaningful. He wanted the show to be in that that came across very clearly when I first met with him and Jeff you know what, I kind of saw what they were trying to do with the show, The Things They want to say. They they want to explore both of days character but I also know with the world he was going to be in in terms of being an outsider and hip-hop hits. So you do it is certainly look I am very happy when I hear people say things like, they were surprised with you and how we tackle the motion how we tackled, you know, character
things, because I did nothing natural, kind of response to the show and that's pretty much what I learn really quickly. First time I met, Dave, you know, he's, he's a lot deeper than than what people most people would say, not as deep as he thinks he is deeper than most people's name, but not nearly as deep as he thinks he is. And how do you feel about described in that way? You know, I have is fine. Like, I'm looking like right in my perspective is like the cards that I put on the wall for the writers room. And one of the card says, do I lack all
emotional depth or am I the only one of the cars and it's like a lot of stuff that's kind of a big theme in the season and I don't know the answer. I think it's kind of ever evolving and I'm really smart. People bring out the, I think there is death in there. That just needs to be like tugged, you know, or I'll just watch SportsCenter, maybe you're the best suited to answer this question is he deep? Or is he not as deep as he thinks? He is a very deep
The stuff that he's comfortable with telling people about his self as far as Securities that's deep in the show. Like if you really know there is a person, he met a whole song about his ex-girlfriend call Molly. One of my favorite songs from that's deep like for everybody to put their emotions out there and insecurities out there as much as he is funny and all that makes us laugh. You just really got to sit back and take note that the jesters in the moments that he's really don't like putting me on TV. Let me cry in front of the world about mental health. That's deep. You know I'm saying. So
smart to bring up a very, very good point. I think this is one of the things that people respond it to about the show, is the authenticity and the authenticity of the show comes from Frank Lee, The Bravery of data. And Dave, right here who are like, showing themselves and like, they're not, they're revealing these things about themselves that are true and they're not doing it behind a character there. This is not a period piece. They're not, you know, it's not Chicago in the nineteen-twenties, this is them. There's such a
thin membrane between real them and these characters and it's like, I need to be in the same way. People, like, going to the car wash, so you can stand outside and look in the window to see the carpet washer like a glass bottom boats, you can see what's going on. Like this show is the glass bottom boat of half-hour comedy. You get to see right inside, like, see what's really going on, and that's a really Brave thing for two people who are not who, you know, this is really their first TV shows. And yet they're standing right there. Saying, these are my issues. These are my problems here
they are, and I think people really responded to that. Well, I mean, I've wondered about that. Which is what are there any subjects for either you date or you gator where you felt a little bit protective about working them into the show? Or were you basically willing as Jeff says, to sort of put it all out there and and let the audience decide what they wanted about it? Getting you want to begin? I was definitely about putting my story out there about the mental health, awareness and everything, because number one I'm black talking about it to, you know, like I said think that it'll
be embarrassing to tell people that I have a mental problem. So that was a lot for me to really cold but I have to relive those moments. I really go to the hospital really, you know, check myself out really take medicine a few days. If you break down and cry in front of my team like that, helping me to Showcase that. That was don't think of me because in the entertainment business, everything is looking cool. So, for me to really just take that cover and blanket off of myself and be like, yo, like I'm out here naked. I'm like, this is me by. That was a big Kudos because my whole career, and
my whole image is based on being cool with looking strong and being the coolest person. So that's what really made me feel good about it. After just seen a response, See how an end and I made it very far. Like I kind of like was just getting over the hurdle of like you know what I like most in life. Like I can accept this and I feel like as a kid it was all I would think about like I would delay every sexual opportunity. I would like to make up excuses of why I couldn't go. You know, to the
event were all the kids are making out in. Like I was the last person that every base because I was just scared of revealing cuz I literally had several surgeries on my penis. And you know, I thought, you know, I was just as an adult getting over that and then I was like, now I'm a bull's-eye. Like any girl that is ever going to see my penis ever for the rest of my life is you know, they're going to see the show and they're going to go into it. Thinking, is that true or is that? So it's like it, but I just feel like the show is all about as gay to said, like, living there
truth. And I feel like it would be really short change and everything or smell like when we were talking about the show and We got to know each other a little bit, maybe the third meeting or something. You said look I've got the secret about my penis but you can't tell anybody cuz nobody knows this. And you told me and he said, you have, you can't tell anybody I said okay I won't tell anybody but that's the first scene of the show and it wasn't by the way, kudos to you, man. I mean, it is it's, it is an amazing Testament to your search for the truth. That
you're back brake and likes knives. How much are the importance is the details for something like that for that opening scene where Dave is just like going on it and I feel like anything I say about it is going to be double entendre. But Dave going on at length about everything that is wrong, with his penis. Like, how much detail do you have to include for it to be as funny as it is? Like, if you just should have tried to screw it? It would it would the sketch not work as well as it does, d
is the best when it's the realest, and it's the real specifics. So, it's like, you know, there's another scene in season 2 of describing, like different methods of, which I masturbated. And, and the, the way I'm describing them are like, you couldn't make it up like, you know what I mean? Like, they're to random decision-making like makeup so I feel too. Yeah. So I feel like specificity is like we're comedy, like thrives and that's where I liked and respected joke so much more than like a guy. Being like my dick sucks,
which is like kind of funny. Cuz I'm like the rapper in the show. That's the name of the song that's like another The metal thing. This whole thing Allen, I thought, Jeff what were conversations with standards and practices? Like, on, on that first season of a standard of practice. I used to say standards and practices that, you know, at a basic cable place is a lot. Like the, like the Turkish judicial system like, is a lot of wiggle room and you can put a get around this. And that it's gotten a lot more relaxed because of the streamers on the stuff, like we were doing the league. There
were things, you definitely couldn't say, you couldn't say fucking, you can do other things. It's a lot a lot looser now, but they're still there, still things that they're like, what I mean, it gets very anatomical, they need to cover their bases. So they need to know what part of the body. You know, we're actually going to see and what we can't see. We have a very specific conversations about that. But for the most part, I will say FX has been very, very sort of supportive about showing the the most true that we need to show.
The real trouble actually has not been FX. It's been Dave and it's been Dave in a different way. So, for instance, in the jail video from the finale of last year, there's a moment where Dave exposes himself exposed his testicles to the crowd day of not, having really working a lot of TV stand. Still, for this moment. Do I have to show my testicles? I said, no, you actually don't have to show your testicles swell. If I have to I will you ask Aunt will go to jail. Look I hear what you're saying. I get it. I'll do it today. I don't like convincing him not to do it and I don't even want to
get into what we needed to do, for when he heard we needed, fake poop on Method. Man, the quote was this. I'm going to go back to my hotel room. I'm going to come back with a bag and you're all going to thank me. Alan. I think there's and practices are actually kind of lacks. I'm usually sending them an email saying, I think you got Miss this one. I I mean I was going to talk about the poops later but since we, we've already gotten to it. I watched a lot of jellyvision in my life and my career, and I'm
pretty sure that was a TV first on-camera, Natalie pooping on camera, diarrhea in action as it was happening. First, did you realize you were breaking new ground in doing that? Seeing it, brings me. Joy to hear like the most revered television critic, not like the people there would be like, I don't think we should shoot it from like, here, like this groundbreaking. I want to look at me like I was wrong, but That brings me to my next resting which is this the show that on the one hand I can have you talking and intense detail about the state of your penis
and it can have on screen diarrhea and all the other things that you've done and yet it can have an episode. Like the one about Gators mental health issues that can have in the episode with the poop, it can have Ally's toast. It can like go to these really emotional places to. How did you figure out where the Sweet Spot was where the show could be as both blunt as it is but also as as emotional as it is? And how long did that take to figure out? What like the little tiny Target was I mean, I don't know how long it took her and I still think I think we did a
credible job last year but I feel like I just feel like that you're trying to make a right and it's like that's what life is like you hang out with me and Jada. It's going to be, you're going to be laughing all day even when we just hang out and walk down the street to gather it. Like, if you had a camera there, I would just be, like, I seen the show at we talk the way we talk. The scenes are in a story written from like a comedy writer perspective to be like truthful. Like anyone could say these things in real life type of way and the real life
people have issues like me and you have gone through shit together and it's like you know there's not it's not just like all of me to dial out at all times. Like so I can get his best friend will get shot six times and it'll be like the most insane week of our lives and it's like things happen and I just know that the route the best show ever is one that portrays the life and it's true with Spectrum. I want to actually go back to the beginning of your friendship. How did the two of you first meet Ivan Gander in for a long time? You know, trying to be a rapper in the industry
and stuff? So, one day when I have fell off on my high horse, I was just doing bad and I just got a text message from this business management person like a music manager. Just reached out to be like, yo, I got this dope artist Lil Dicky, the shit I want you to meet them because I will try to rock out together. So that just really how I met him, you know? Cuz I just finish the story from my perspective. So basically, I was, I was beginning to pretty much a cheap, like a ton of viral like a claim as a rapper and was at the point where I can like sell out, like a 1200
Taproom. And I've never even wrapped in front of like, any human being in my life and I was too scared to even do karaoke and I was rehearsing for my concert and you know, back then I would write my rash since I was like I was trying to prove that I was like the best rapper alive. So like every verse was like I was like trying to like do it all the time and I work with some other time who get it was a hit man for his artist back in the day. So he said, I know a guy who was a hit man for my
artist Tyga and as he says he's always Gander and he literally shows up with two like people working for him. One of them, like his videographer and another one is holding like his merch. And just a lot more important than he meant. He felt like he was at the time and then he came in and I computer music publishing company. So they are so sweet. When it came time to make this show was there was Gator always going to play himself or was there ever in any point even a thought given to having someone else do it? I always
wanted it to be. I basically like you do. I have a few friends who were like really funny like that are just funny people but you put a camera in front of them and they just like, you know, so all we had to do is make sure that didn't happen the gate. I knew that there's no one that I could play Gator like these such a It is anyone that needs game and walks away feeling like he's like deck that he likes should be like the most famous man in the world. You know what I mean? Like, that's a personality and all that really need to happen was just like I was just killed that. I was just over
from there and by the way we get we did this little camera just have gave you were rock salt. For the beginning of Gator, should be Gator. So we did this little camera test. It was the two of them walking down the street and it was like, you guys talk when you're walking down the street and I still look at that shit to this day. If you like damn that she could have been an episode. Tell me, what do you remember about when it came time to actually write the gate Centric episode at the time? Watching it was a big departure from
what you guys have been doing earlier, but I assume you all have been talking about building to that. So how much of a challenge was it to go and explore these kind of issues in the context of a half-hour comedy by time? It was, it was time that you turn that draft in. We've been talkin in the room. Not not only about the particular motion issues. We're going to tackle a nap but we had talked about a lot of things days. Real life from games, real life was going to play later in the season as well. So like the audience is experiencing it in like a secret in like
a sequential way but we just know Gator. Come in just shared a lot of stories with David bother people and you know from his life to just share stories with the soap. We were already in the mindset of that's where the strength of our show Lies when we do the surprising things. By the time, you came came time to write it, you know, like I would say the the biggest surprise was before that script came up in the writing order was just in the beginning. We were like, okay, let's just see no talk to Dave hear his stories. He was real stories and meet the people in his life. You know,
that's what it was like. Oh my goodness. This is lot. We realize things that we can mind here that, you know, our unexpected. And that's when we kind of strapped this, lay them out and say, okay well, how can we eat a plant this year? Plantis there, and this episode it's episode in and pay it off here. So right by the time we we got to pick a number 200-500 you know. It was episode 6 at one time, by the time we got there. Honestly it was I was able to get it out you know cuz we've been lit at. We've been living with this stuff because of knowing about
these stories in this twist in this It's just this new side of gate of character. We've been living with it for so long and wanting to get out. I was excited. They finally, finally, you know. Now we get to put this down on the page versus, you know, I'm just talkin about it, but I was a credit to you saw it when you were very insistent that like, this is something super interesting that, you know, I don't know if I would have realized that. Like no talk about mental health in the black community like and what a way to get into it. And I think it actually captured one of the other things.
I love about the show so much, which is the more personal you get more specifically personal, you get the more Universal you can be and that's that that set us on a very good path for future future episodes. What was speaking of the future? You guys are now we're working on season 2, right now, for small, like how challenging is it to have to do this again under the circumstances in which we all unfortunately, living? It's challenging for sure. And it's like stressful when it's like we are and I was wearing NASA whole time and it's like your face Shields and like
their psychological Thriller me when you're out there. But I got to say it's like I don't know for me, I m home for so long, but I have a lot. Even with the circumstances personally, like, last year, when we Shot season 1, I wouldn't say that shooting the show. I had fun doing it because I felt like I was, I was like, I was like is this the right thing to be doing? Like are we making the show that I had? That I am visiting in my mind was a very stressful. I felt like I was like fighting for my life, so to speak. And
now I feel like I've learned what that is and I can just like, enjoy it and have more fun and it's like a lot more fun than sitting at home quarantine it for months, you know? So I'm actually surprised we haven't, but it is. So it's actually really weirdly challenging its own ways, but all location show. So, you know, which is where I am amazed. Anybody lets us even like Scout at their house. It's like the, what is that? It's like, how I'm here with 10 people were going to come in your house? You don't know if we're going to touch everything, but here's a good news, if we like, your
husband going to come back with like, 80 people. What can you tell the audience about what's coming up in season 2? What they can expect? Well, I would say this, I would say this season, we wanted to explore how more success breeds more pressure. And I think we also want to explore a little bit as everyone gets a little more successful. What does that mean for Dave? And his support group, right? Everyone, this whole machine was sort of built to support Dave, what happens when that supports not there, cuz they're doing other things and what
does that mean for Dave? And you still had a little bit of success. He's got this, she's got this this deal, but he's got to make an album and what is, and what is that pressure? And Candy actually right enough songs to do it. I think this year's is more more psychological and it's more of like an arc of everything like it. So, you know, there's less like one off. You know what I mean? Like, everything's like pretty tied together and I just think on a macro-level, like, it's not the bulk of our first rodeo anymore. Like this was literally the first time ever doing
anything. The sort, you know what I mean? So I just feel like it's invaluable having a season under your belt compared to. Now I think everything is going to be really elevated. I really feel like I care a lot more about the art of filmmaking. Now, wish Is right? Well guys I cannot wait to see it. I'm sure everyone in the audience feels the same way. I Dave season 2 will premiere on FX X and FX on Hulu in 2021. Thank you all so much for doing this. Thanks for having a really fun by guys, please.
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