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PGConf India 2020-Open Source, Data and Postgres – An Enterprise Viewpoint - Gautam Khanna - Infosys

Gautam Khanna
Vice President at Infosys
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February 27, 2020, Bengaluru, India
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Gautam Khanna
Vice President at Infosys

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Data is at the center of all modernization initiatives at the enterprise level. What role does Open Source/FOSS play in this paradigm? How does PostgreSQL fit into the enterprise data landscape? In this session, a ring side view will be presented on how Global 2000 clients are absorbing PostgreSQL into their IT landscape.

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Morning, everyone. That's not, that's not loud enough. Good morning, everyone. Yeah, that's nice. That's nice. I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing. I don't have any You know, green screens and typing record, so it's just a few videos. Me talkin, some slides in the background and hopefully some jokes. Maybe you like them, maybe you weren't. I don't know. We'll see about that. I guess I can get this PPT to work. Okay, that's good. So there are three things. But I would like you to leave with

after this session. The first is that influences as a company, as an organization, as a global is very serious about open source and taking it to do. Its client base, that is acting as a catalyst to make that happen and the third may be the most important is that the Martin Edition practice is obviously working the factory Code system, bringing it to bed for a client but also is interested in recruiting some good dreams. So if you're interested to talk to me after this session,

So the vantage point that we have is severe part of application Services, which is the largest service line in the company about 3.6 billion dollars. And as I said, we act as a catalyst to get about 343 and fifty strong. All of them architects in technologist. so, one thing is for sure in the last 3 years and a half years, We've seen a major uptick in the adoption of open-source. So what's so 60% of the companies use open source for application ID modernization?

And about 60% see that moonlit systems on Legacy Technologies are a big concern for them and I speak the past and the complexity of managing them is actually the driver for modernization. Right? But this was not the case always sings, it started picking up in the last three years. This is an example of an RFP that we were responding to 3 years back where the client explicitly said no open sores. A lot of criticism against the Indian Heritage rights. We said, why aren't you considering open source

of discussions? And guess what, that clause in the RFP was taken off. We actually had at least four or five places in the full stack where we implemented open source. But I know it's a lot of organizations that actually take open-source first as an approach. The moment they're looking to modernize their applications. So he has an interesting video, I want to play for you and and then I have some things to share about that. See if I can get it to. How can an Enterprise learn from nature? How can I respond

in act like a living working while navigating with twists and turns of a complex world? How can an Enterprise become a live Enterprise or questions? We are creating solutions for for ourselves and for our clients? Infosys. We are transforming into a digital native organization. Using the Infosys live, Enterprise suite and Enterprise. That is connected. Observable. Responsive. Sentient. And continuously learning. We have re-imagined, our process. Our experience.

Our ecosystem. While also being sustainable. Now, imagine what the invoices live Enterprises we can do for you. You don't have the flexibility of a startup. Insights will be more action for your entire Enterprise. Will be acting like an organism bellowing and adapting in real time. Now is the time to start transforming into a live Enterprise. See how interested can help you navigate your next? One thing I want to make you a nice marketing video, but it's reality. So we have

165,000 emphasis employees that are using their mobile phones to learn. Pretty much any technology that is available under the sun that we offer services on. So that's the learning or lexpark, right? The most important thing is that. It's not about just a customer experience. When people think about digital, a lot of times, The thing that comes to mind is it's the customers who are paying, but it's also the employees, the internal stakeholders, their experience is equally important. So that this live Enterprises about how can the employee experience

change, phenomenally be connected to a phone. They should be able to do pretty much everything. In terms of the regular approvals were closed, applying for leave immigration, visa claims to be the entire set of workflows. That is where you can actually do it on the phone. And learning as well as figuring out. How to get to the right people to get the right help the other things. So, all of that is on open source. Completely open-source. And that is what we are taking to a client's. Let's look at an example.

How many people are aware of Justine? Some none. I hope more than how many hands are going up. I hope so, if you're not, then here are some statistics to Make you understand? How big on massive? This application is Right. $6 of taxes. Have been collected in the last 18 months is 10,000. 8 +. All of this is with a 0 and a 30 minutes is 15 minutes. What I call an application is completely on open-source. I don't know if my mission-critical applications, just put these numbers up there and whatever they have just pales in significance.

This Is War open source can do it because even this is a post-conference adoption maturity varies. It's not the same across different industry segments. I have this interesting but what makes you think some Industries are going faster than others? In adopting open source. Costas was obviously there. What is the question of Fire? I don't think any of you were there. That idea you had something to say. Excellent. Excellent. See, I said I would like a fire in the mind like you're passionate or fire in the belly,

write, all of those are important and I think none of you whether that I'd had conference because I'm refusing the joke, but that are using open-source a whole lot actually have competitive pressures much more than some of the other Industries. But what are the challenges that clients see when they are. Open source? So the first thing is what's the best food Solutions there. A lot of clients have swayed by the people that they have within their own is organization. The, it organization has been no particular technology has two

words. It may be a good option. May not be tricky and I have to Do a tightrope. Walk on that is Prada Grinders if they have Ex-Lax answer to that. So we need to make the right choices and it's not easy, it's not easy because nobody wants to listen to that. The price tag is high, you know, this is a fantastic stack but it's going to cost more. Now, they already have the problem with Infosys as well as some of our is. They have enough and more investments

in infrastructure already. So how do you come out of it in a cost neutral manner is the question? This is about this whole complex. Bring 517 partners for a large transformation. Program seamlessly to the client is is the question on cloud. What's the best? Free Cloud strategy? The last one is the best 300 so you need to have an option at scale and a factory based approach in in getting things done. So, how do we do it in Infosys? What are they doing to catalyze? This this whole movement for the clients in the last 12 months,

32000 unique, 30. Mm employees. They may have done one or more. Trainings certifications on open-source. It's a mind-boggling number. We have about 6300, rocks that have one or more open source, confidence in it have contributed. So tight on the ferry free to number of communities. Need to start, I think it'll take at least one or two more years for it to start going into the tens of thousands. And, you know, contributing Barranca practices, I said the modernization practice. The fundamental factors that even larger size are very silent.

So I know it's supposed to be. So the elephant thing fits in a little better and technologists have a very narrow view into the world. When the client has to make that best fit decision, you need people architects. Who can see much Beyond just an out of you, right? So you need Brett and you need that not easy to get. You don't find people in the market, we have to build our cells. all right, for the most, for the most part, no. it is the goes without saying in the last two years to the three years. It's the database layer that seen

a whole lot more changes shift and innovation Hey Chris is at the center of it. I'll be honest in terms of clients evaluating outcome of the projects that we big for RV participate and I know it may not be the most popular person on the ranking site button, Enterprise customers, 44 Sunbury of this. Is that I think all of you know who's Grace is most popular. But here is the distribution about 60% is clients trying to migrate off of a proprietary database.

And 30% is because they're migrating to the cloud and about 10% of students Greenfield development. Across the board. Here are some examples. The first one is Inside Out, free samples, three continents. The first one is in Asia, it's about physical or core banking product and It's on you to be prosperous if you have a few product placement because she invited me. So I have to have these Shout out in product placement, like the hero drinking a particular brand of cola

16 that about 15 to 16% of the bank population of the world. Actually bankson. It has. Bigger adoption base and this was done in time and it helped save the client 80% online banking cost. The second one is in Australia. And that was for a network Broadband, Network provider from the application. The last one is US is an oilfield services company and this application was on drink water during during performance. But the savings were $400,000 on every rig. You can

imagine the amount of cost savings that they hide. Right now, what do we do at Infosys? There is obviously things that we do to help clients on that journey through. The first two are primarily on the Legacy code for figuring out and doing an automatic conversion as much as possible from the propriety languages like this. There is no one to one set of napping at times. So you need to do a little bit of a pattern matching in and apply. I take it from a 50% commission to about 80 80 90% automation. The last one is about

making sure that whatever data has moved, hasn't moved properly in about data validation. So I guess Olivia is a partner of choice for us. And good luck. And we have jointly in the number of government contracts. We also have a number of mutual clients baby work together. NBA's the promise to clients is about. Having a 60 to 90% license cost savings. With all the automation that we have to try to bring in about 30 to 60% Savings in in the migration effort and

it is minimal. The last coat that I have. Tricky one. But it's true. I don't know how many people agree with that. So, don't be too sure about your world have a little bit of doubt. Hey, just for you as a professional, don't be too siloed in your approach. That's all I had to share. Thank you so much, and if they had a few questions, I can take her. Yeah. So Yeah, I heard the question. I don't know if the audience date. Corpus in C start of a deeply integrated with Rosie and an article. So when you move to something like postgres,

It's it's like almost the whole day, TaxSlayer. How many challenges are usually? It's hard to be, but I'll be honest about it. So we didn't sequences are also part of the open-source option is there on Tuesday to do the job. but there is a fair bit of it can't be done. What is a simple answer to that? I see that it is something in eating people's. Chris, that allows a lot of the code to run as If so, how did your size limitation on the previous versions of polka dots? And you mentioned about the earliest post 32 or 64GB

previously later so I can get if you can meet me after the session I give you my email ID. Why don't you drop me? What? I don't know if you're allowed to ask me a question. There is an honest. Simple answer. so, Yeah, London is a big proponent of open-source. So then he already has. Because if you want to take your compliance the clients will have a question, okay? How about you telling us what you're doing inside? I am so somehow that story has to come together. Also,

the systems of differentiation and this stakeholder experience, including the employee experience. The customer experience, all of that. What is sponsored? I mean, in any large Organization for the last transmission, you need this the sponsor to actually give the vision and then just drive the entire organization goes without saying and the more senior, the sponsor is the easier it is to get it done. It goes without saying okay, so now it's good to say that Microsoft may be as a plan to promote open source are posted What was your question is?

So, I was saying that. So now Infosys has some plan to promote open source or a sequel. you have some plan to promote when clients which two clients to modernize their application landscape who's Chris is An option on the Alabama sign that is why is it an option that we give? And we do this options analysis across the application stack and based on the architectural is significant requirements. The non-functional requirements of the application fee. Give them. What is a better fit

But what we do is a techno commercial decision, see what happens in a size. Most of the times is they do just technical evaluation and assessment and give give you a bank as if the money is going to come over in from somewhere in and they're done with those nice boxes and but what is assessment? So we do the commercial assessment along with that. So if you think some other choice is better, but if it's more Pass Key clients purgative, I still go for it. That's

how do you make sure that the Investments are doing? How do you make sure the physical as in Burnout and most projects died out and then maintenance, I've later on and then try to revive the project and can't wait for what the problem is that most Enterprises use it but they don't actually give back to the community is in. Any measures. In terms of either one's open source project are in terms of putting in for us to help and contribute open source projects.

Yeah, that's a very good question. Very valid question, and it's not just in purses. Actually, some of her clients are also looking to contribute back to three ways we are doing. The first one is I don't know if you saw that numbers in the last 12 months or so 12 to 15 months, we've been actively encouraging developers technical needs Architects within enforces. Start contributing. So we have a very well laid out process, so that there is no, I believe we have

1230, we don't want anything to land up in, in a community like, which does not belong there. So they encourage what we are also doing is we, we understand X difficult and holding his required approach, our partners who have seen their contributors to try to Mentor, I mean, it's up to, it's not easy. I'll be honest, it's easier said than done and where our partners are involved and open-source platform and there are things in the pipeline that we are working with clients. Clients are the times and the little thing we want to open it right. There are

things like that. We are doing with the time bass so these are people who contribute to the public. Due to the entire community building with an emphasis and we have a small write-up about the individual in what they have done. To answer your question in the context of his question. And don't you think a week copyleft license which is BSD Clause 3 is the singular cause a y a contributions that go back into the code base are not as clear in terms of where you actually, as a corporate identify changes and

to where you don't distinguish between an Icee LA versus the CLC, which means, I like you so much. You have an individual contribution accepted but not a company contribution, which means no single company can actually dominant, don't you think that's one of the weaknesses of the Corpus license? Because of which, I believe a lot of people when they want to contribute, it becomes what we call India, the nearest problem. So they start thinking of the nitty The other part of the story. You'll talk because you said, you have any process that there should be? No, I feel like it's a copyrighted

stuff. It already has an IP right now, I understand your concern, but I'm not sure that the contributions that we are doing a present would get into changing the code requirements. To be honest, I'm not going there and talk as much as Chris person who invented, but it's just something you sure, maybe I'll have to discuss it with the IP team a little more, but I don't think that came out. I just like to chime in on this is somebody from the open-source side. I think that's actually one of the greatest strengths of the project and

I wouldn't consider it a weakness at all. I think the fact that no single company can dominate postgresql is very, very good for the future of post Rescue out. And I think the fact that it's possible for people to make Forks of postgresql, is one of the things that has led postgresql. To have enormous Commercial Success because if somebody wants to build a business around postgres, they have the freedom, they have the freedom to do that and they're not limited to just charging for support and services. If they want to, they can charge for the code. If they don't want to, they can charge

for the code. If what they do is good, people will use it if it's not so good. That people have a choice of your back. That's all it is. I may not be. Okay, thank you. Go to insights about open so it's good to know. See inside figure clearing. Thank you. I just wanted to clarify that the invitation to you is from which continent are the possible to use a group. I appreciate that direction. 3313, and thank you.

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