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Deepak Mohan, Executive Vice President, Product Organization at Veritas, joins Stu Miniman for coverage of VMworld 2020.
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The ‘next normal’ will center on resiliency as much as storage
BY SLOANE KALI FAYE
For many years, VMworld attendees used to jokingly call the conference “storage world.”
Storage has usually gotten the lion’s share of attention from enterprise customers, according to Deepak Mohan (pictured), executive vice president of products at Veritas Technologies LLC. However, as companies become more vulnerable to breaches and attacks, resilience and recovery are also important.
Storage systems require ongoing protection. Data and application resiliency providers such as Veritas are seeing increasing attention in these unpredictable times. In fact, last year VMworld hosted more data protection and resiliency vendors than storage vendors. These marked changes reflect new concerns in the “next normal” tech world.
Mohan spoke with Stu Miniman, host of theCUBE, SiliconANGLE Media’s livestreaming studio, during VMworld. They discussed a shifting spotlight from storage to resiliency solutions, increasingly complex challenges for chief information officers, and rising to meet new market trends. (* Disclosure below.)
Simplifying complexity for CIOs
The CIO’s role is increasingly complex in a moment of big, yet quick shifts for storage technology. For example, CIOs now have software applications running on-premises, in virtual machines, and in hybrid environments. These applications are also running in private clouds, as well as infrastructure as a service.
“So they’re all over the place,” Mohan said. “Now think about the job of the CIO. First, you have to make sure all these applications are up and running 24 [seven].”
In migrating to the cloud, several enterprise customers are leveraging solutions, such as VMC or Azure VMware solutions. As they shift workloads to the cloud, they may be deploying virtual machines there, but the need for high availability and data resiliency backup actually becomes complicated. Mohan indicated this complexity exists “because the old environments are still there on-prem. Some workloads are now moving to the cloud, and they are leveraging the Veritas solutions,” Mohan stated.
Meeting current market trends
Mohan attributes much of Veritas’ success to its ability to remain current with trends spawned by myriad technology transformations and disruptions. As hybrid cloud disruptions persist, Veritas is working hard to ensure the data protection layers are done correctly.
“So, we are definitely working with VMware on the Tanzu resiliency, as well as leveraging the Velero platform,” Mohan said.
Organizations are using solutions to support migration to the cloud and resiliency. In response, more and more companies, like Veritas, are innovating to help CIOs, and enterprise in general, navigate their new and persistent resiliency challenges, Mohan concluded.
Watch the complete video interview below, and be sure to check out more of SiliconANGLE’s and theCUBE’s coverage of VMworld. (* Disclosure: VMware Inc. sponsored this segment of theCUBE. Neither VMware nor other sponsors have editorial control over content on theCUBE or SiliconANGLE.)
From around the globe. It's the cue with digital coverage of vmworld 2020 brought to you by the end where and its ecosystem partners. Welcome back, I'm stupid man. In this is the cube coverage of the emerald 2020 or 11 to year at vmworld and of course, we've been watching VMware, they're doing a lot more in the cloud, the last few years, big partnership with AWS. And part of that is they bring their ecosystem with them. So just as they've had hundreds of companies working with them in the data center aisle, when they do VMware Cloud on AWS and Azure Oracle, all the cloud
service providers in companies can come along and continue to partner with them, as part of what we're going to be discussing, how to welcome back to the program. It's been a few years, Deepak Mohan. He's the Executive Vice President of products organization at Veritas Deepak. Thank you so much for joining us. You got a beautiful love. Veritas facility that behind you there. Nice to meet you stew. Yeah. We are really excited about the VM Boulevard and a happy to be on the show with you before, we dig into the resiliency and all the other pieces in a good note to Veritas VMware.
Relationship goes goes way back. I mean, I I think back to the to the early aughts, you to talk about the software company in a Veritas was as easy as you know, software company in the industry that really got a lot of it started a little company that you and I both know, any MC picked up VMware, the rest is history there but Veritas that, that partnership. It is has been there since the early early days from VMware, such a refresher of you was a little bit on that partnership. Are you also be and where and when it does have been partners for like 20 years, in fact, I'll say both companies were
found at about the same time we are neighbors and Silicon Valley and a Veritas was actually one of the first companies who have introduced the concept of software-defined data center software-defined, storage in fact, even before in a Visa came into, the picture would be Amber progressed with the virtualization software infrastructure. It was really important. For Enterprise customers to ensure that both applications are resilient and Heidi available and all that data remains protected. So
87% of the global Fortune, 500 customer. Veritas customers, they're all using VMware in their infrastructures. So anytime VMware, introduces a technology. We have to ensure it is available, it's protected. So that partnership goes along along with a wet every VMware platform. Has we ordered on day one or the other solution, cerveja a partnership, get to see each other frequently and make sure that our Solutions are joined at the hip here. From Veritas we talked about data, resiliency and is as you laid out there, you know, some things have changed it to you in 20 years ago. We
weren't talking about cloud-native environments and you know, all of these various pieces, it was really a multi-vendor heterogeneous environments that Veritas lived in. But even in all these environments, of course, in eau de resiliency making sure my data is protected, making sure things are secure. It is still dating the top of mine and so important for organizations. So in a little bit about, you know what, that means here in 2020 with bear. I'd say 20 years ago, we had one application. One server life was very stupidly simple
then came William where you don't know if we have the hybrid private Cloud public Cloud, hybrid Cloud. So the infrastructure is shifting into these are the models, but the need for application, resiliency and data, resiliency is getting more and more complex. Because now we have applications that are running on Prime that are the inversion machines in hybrid environments, that are private, clouds are running in infrastructure as a service saas applications. So they're all over the place. Now, think about the job of the CIO,
you have to make sure all these applications are up and running 24 by 7. Second. These applications has to be protected baby twins in case of a disaster. In case of an issue, you have to be able to recover them. How do you be complied with regulations with dang. So, the customers now have to have visibility into their infrastructure. So the job of the CIA is becoming super complex to keep in handling everything and that's where the companies like Veritas were doing application. Resiliency data, resiliency, is become really important. I
mean, as an example, last year at vmworld show floor, I actually counted the number of backup band at the storage vendor said, they was actually more data protection and the visiting team vendors on the floor, then they were like this, or is it? Yeah, Deepak you you're absolutely right. We we we saw that, you know, fruit for years. We used to call it storage World cuz they don't come in partner with VMware, but data protection is so so, so so important, here, that conversation history, of course, is that rollout of project Pacific with PC. R7b through 7
update one, just right, right ahead of vmworld. I'm assuming Veritas is just keep it in lockstep with VMware, but you know, if they talk a bit about, you know, how that fits into the portfolio, Oh, absolutely. So, so one of the keys to success over the last 20 years, is that we have kept up with all the technology transformation. Send all the technology, disruptions that happen. And it has these hybrid Cloud disruption to happening with that. You mentioned project Pacific but we are one of the
design partners with with Amber for to ensure the data protection layers are done correctly. So so we are definitely working with VMware on the on the chancel resiliency as well as leveraging the Valero platform W. Make sure that as our customers are deploying these new Solutions, the better solution. There All to offer them, the resiliency and data protection needed blood vmware's doing in the Clouds. Of course the partnership. The universe with IBM at vmworld a few years ago, right? After
vmworld it was with AWS and there was a lot of interest but we are seeing that customer. Adoption of. I wonder if you talk about how closely your work with him, do you have any, do you know, maybe anonymize customers that you can talk about what they're saying in the cloud? Why VMware in veritas went, when they go to this environment, moving into the cloud space leveraging cvmc or now with the Azure VM solution. So what happens is, when these customers that we have large
financials, for example, who are using now, VMware and migrating, there were clothes into the South So they may be deploying virtual machines there, but the need for a check and data resilience in backup. Actually gets a little bit more complex because the old environments are still there. On Prime, some work loads are now moving to the cloud and they're leveraging the better Solutions. One support migration second to offer their resiliency leveraging, the Veritas Brazilian seat back
home or LED backup or burritos. In to scale. An example is one Airline customer reservation systems, help moving to AWS within 2, availability zones. The application availability comes with severitus Solution on the journey to the cloud helping Enterprise customers. Work in these hybrid use cases. TPAC, since you've got so many customers and they're going through their Cloud Journeys in, in veritas Works across all the environment. You get a good view point as to where we are. One of the things were really trying to help clarify people throw these
terms, hybrid cloud, and multi Cloud customers. I talked to, we have a cloud strategy and do use more than one Cloud. Yes, is portability the big concern. Oh, no, I'm not moving things all over the time. I don't wake up and say, you know, I'm checking the stock market and therefore I'm going to move to one of the other but I need to have my multiple environments. It's difficult on them with different skill, sets and living where the customer is so beautiful. Inside, as to what you're seeing from the customers, this
all hybrid multi-cloud environment, what does it mean to your customers? So what I'm saying is, you know, we have a variety of customers and invariably when we talked to them, each one of them has a different Journey to the cloud. Some customers may be more mid-market want to move completely towards a platform as a service approach and leverage, either a drawer or a SS Enterprise. Customers are looking at taking workloads, it could be one of their applications. Some are further ahead in the journey
and they're taking now of mission-critical application. I didn't know. It could be in sap workload, it could be some mission-critical in a Billing System reservation systems and then Using VMware as the mechanism to go into the cloud with it and in the end and when they do that, they're looking for the same level and send the level of 2 for both availability and data protection examples between utilities Healthcare company's financials government. Is now they're moving towards and
now they're absolutely leveraging tools from Veritas. They want to make sure that our solution that actually support those complex and highly scalable use cases, and we're absolutely doing that with the solutions. You talk about some of the challenges that customers have some things have changed in 2020. One thing that has not changed is that sick? Top of mine, we often see the data protection and security. Some of those pieces. Go hand-in-hand, I remember years ago, talking, at the Veritas,
it was gdpr and ran somewhere where the, where the big things that we talked about with every single customer as to how they work defending in preparing of for that. So give us give us the state of your environment. Would we know that even when everybody's working from home unfortunately the Bad actors that they're they're actually working overtime. Answer, the problem of ransomware has actually gotten the whole lot worse over the last couple of years. So, it's, as we think about ransomware,
we have the security layer, which means in our forces, you have to make sure your infrastructure is protected. You know, the second layer is detection between. How do you know, if there's a chance of it sitting in your environment? Because it could have come in? And it may actually clicking at a much later time and the third is recovery. And to be able to recover, you need really good data, protection and backup policies within the company's. Ready able to recover it. So of course, I'll that most companies invest a lot in
the security software but we know that rents over still get send, it can get into a phishing attack and can't get into email. That one of the employees at home flicks on something, you know, when somebody is in the back up and the data protection is the last line of defense, Call to be able to recover. So now you have it your stuff, but you do you want to find the last the best copy? I'll be able to recover very, very quickly. And the problem is, is really serious. I was actually talking to my, one of our tech support leaders
and we get at least one caller day with one of our customers that's had been hit with Run summer and we help them through the recovery process. So that's it, heavy investment area, for better without that backup software, backup, exec software. But also with the hardened Veritas appliances, we provide a very solid way for our customers to be able to protect and recover from ransomware. Still don't be thing. I suggested, you know, once you've been hit at and if you don't have a good backup, you know I talked about that you just ate
that entire estate has to be protected also from Summer, which means standardization is key to when something happens. Are you going to look at nine product to recover from or you want all your catalogues all your data on your inside in one place? So you can then go quickly come back online and not have to pay the ransom. We we talked at the beginning about the double long partnership, you were there, you know, Daisy row with the VCR 7 activity. What do you want people to take away from being
rolled a 2020 when it comes to Barrett Doss? Message to our mutual customers. Is that what it does is here to support your journey to the hybrid Cloud to the cloud? We are investing heavily in the solutions. We are going to continue providing day Zero support for all be ever lucian's and releases and we're working very closely with the VMware on the tansu platform roll out every other design partner will be there as well as leveraging the right apis. Better to be a d. He sent yesterday 5 on every latest
versions of the VMware, portfolio of you have several hundred Engineers that just to make sure that be support by phone. Azure door Solutions are also extremely well. Certified works very closely with AWS. We were the first to be certified on the 8th WS up Solutions. Already certification works extremely well with the reimbursed Solutions as well, as ABS as your solution solves, the areas of investment for us. So the same way that our customers have depended on us over the last 20 years. We are riding through the technology
disruptions to help our customers into the next wave with the same set of solutions working, both on Prime hybrid and Cloud. Yeah, I didn't see pack, my mom, having flashbacks owe you, and I remember the things when it was the VX Fs in the vxvm. And now we've got the, you know, all the verito, the VMware versions on ABS in Google Cloud VMware engine. It gets a little confusing out there, but hey, I really appreciate you giving us some clarity as to how you're helping customers with their their data,
resiliency sporting ransomware, and the deep and long partnership that Veritas in VMware have. Thanks so much for joining us. Thank you. Thank you, stew. Alright, a tune lots. More coverage from vmworld 2020. I'm streaming A Min and thank you for watching the cube.
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