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Anand Babu Periasamy, CEO & Co-founder of MinIO, joins Stu Miniman for coverage of VMworld 2020.
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Why the growing preference for object storage will make the public and private clouds look alike
BY SHANNON FLYNN
When people think about major trends defining technology and how modern society uses it, data undoubtedly comes to the forefront. The difficulty is that companies often run their workloads in a combination of environments. They want a purely software-based solution that lets them rely on the public cloud, private cloud or edge computing as their needs dictate.
“Containers started the [private cloud] trend, and then Kubernetes accelerated it further,” said Anand Babu Periasamy (pictured), co-founder and chief executive officer of MinIO Inc. “Nowadays, you see why it’s no longer a dream or a faith-based model. It’s … like, 540,000 Docker pulls a day and 412 million or so Docker pulls in aggregate that show that the entire industry has changed.”
Periasamy spoke with Stu Miniman (@stu), host of theCUBE, SiliconANGLE Media’s livestreaming studio, during VMworld. They discussed the rise of object storage becoming the primary storage model, how customers want options that let them manage their data across multiple cloud environments, and how the future will feature fewer silos and more collaboration. (* Disclosure below.)
Short-term growth from 10 terabytes to 10 petabytes
Most of the data that’s overwhelming enterprises is machine-generated, such as logs, event data and continuously produced data streams. It doesn’t take long for that information to quickly balloon from 10 terabytes to 10 petabytes, according to Periasamy.
With the substantial growth in data produced, customers are adopting object storage as their primary, foundational solution. MinIO allows users to build software and deploy it in the public or private cloud, or on the edge, without modifying it. Customers want the flexibility to roll out containerized software in their preferred cloud environments, Periasamy explained.
While some organizations deploy their vast workloads on the public cloud, including anything fast-moving or convenience-based, they most often put their sustained workloads on the private cloud, according to Periasamy. Edge computing is growing too, and customers want a software-based solution that reflects those needs.
“When object storage is containerized, we still need drives, right? That is where VMware vSAN comes. VSAN’s job is to virtualize the physical layer to the — basically — container layer,” Periasamy said.
MinIO is a Kubernetes-native solution, but businesses don’t need backgrounds in containerization to benefit from it. The click-to-deploy interface takes a software-based approach. Instead of dealing with the restrictions of long hardware procurement cycles, customers handle the provisioning within a software container.
Watch the complete video interview below, and be sure to check out more of SiliconANGLE’s and theCUBE’s coverage of VMworld. (* Disclosure: MinIO sponsored this segment of theCUBE. Neither MinIO nor other sponsors have editorial control over content on theCUBE or SiliconANGLE.)
From around the globe. It's the cue with digital coverage of vmworld 2020 brought to you by the end where and its ecosystem partners. Welcome back. I'm streaming a man, and this is, we've actually reached the end of the cubes coverage of vmworld 2020 hard to believe 11 years. We've done, lots of interviews. Here has been great to be able to engage with the audience to talk. Talk to Executives, talk some customer, but saving one more for you. So happy to welcome to throw away the first time on the Q. But we've been talking to him since they came out of stealth. So I have the
co-founder and CEO of men Ayo and that is non Babu, periasamy a be so nice to see you. Thanks so much for joining us. Thank you, is to thank you for having me on the show. Love when I get to talk to the founders of companies were going to dig into your company. But before we do just frame for us really high performance, ayo ayo, seen the name of your company, men might make me think that there's some miniaturization, but give us the VMware connection. Obviously, being worth talking a lot about Cloud this week. They talked about going deep into a, i n in Computing. So,
We know this ecosystem has changed a lot in the 11 years that we've been covering it tells how how you and your company pie in sounds good babe, somehow. I think, in the Enterprise, like, it has always been, like shiny heavy complex things find complex solutions to simple problems, and charge them. A lot that has been the trend in the past. That's what cloud has recently and the price and Minnie and Minnie, who is actually about solving that data storage problem. A very large scale and the solution is like, find Simple Solutions, to
complex problem, and we grew in the cloud in the club, both in the public and private cloud. And we are now the fastest-growing objects to reach for the private cloud. And now we are coming into the covid-19 CVM, where is set to lead. The government has raised and in the car and this is where I would equal system to VMware and VMware brings the Enterprise Market to cloud. And this is the start of the private cloud in the long run. I think, public and private cloud look like, yeah, absolutely. We've, we've been
writing about this for fur, fur, for many years, they be we saw the Enterprise is taking on more the characteristics of hyperscalers. The hyperscalers of course they're coming more to the Enterprise, a lot of discussion about hybrid multi Cloud these days, but I want you to explain a little bit when when, when your company was formed to talk about kubernetes environment with AWS and Azure. But a lot of what you do is is on premises and that strikes people as a little bit unconventional in in the work, they play 2017. And even for 2020, soap help
us, understand. Do you know what? It is exactly that. You know, who the technology bring in? In in why you think it's the 5th 4 to send making private cloud? It's not surprising to us at all, but it made no sense than we started with for the rest of the world, right? Even though the rest of the world is not useful, inside a WS, there is no use at all. And we, our question was, very simple amount of data the world will produce in the next 10 years. Bulk of the data, where is it going to be late and it's not going to be in the public cloud, and it. It didn't sound obvious back then, and be saw
that in the long run public and private clouds that look alike. But the bulk of the data, if it's going to be generated outside in the rest of the world, what are they going to do to a base to be the S3 for the rest of the world and the rest of the world is the biggest market and back then there was no private cloud. Cloud and public Cloud. What men do? I need a w s, right? And this was not so long ago and then it came from my private Cloud came freely accelerated.
This is basically kubernetes and containers. Containers are a million or so darker cruising again. Choose today. She has changed and it's already and it's no longer expect Bastion in public and private or hybrid Cloud, I think it's irreversible. Are you talk about soccer poles and in the code? They're so let's make sure our audience understand exactly what you are. Sounds like your software. It sounds like the open-source is a piece of it help us understand. And you know, how you fit with you couldn't cuz we were talking about. There's got to be some
infrastructure underneath that. What what does mean I owe provide in in time? Unless it means, that is very, it's not. Like there is no problem, is they've been 220. Times job is to virtualize the physical layer to the, basically, contain earlier. But end of the day, if you see, it is a software problem. And what mean, I would just like a database would start solve the metadata data stored problem when I will solve the the block data problem and in the public cloud storage is the foundation of is it, is the prime, Barbie saw this
as a software problem. Customer, started building these applications. They actually contain erase that application and US governments to roll out. Their application are in Prospect. And when they do that, they cannot possibly buy a hardware, Appliance on the public cloud and even on the on the private Cloud. They when they, when they completely Orchestra two containers, they cannot rule out Hardware Appliances. This is where the community always saw this as a software problem, it was obvious to them. So be it in the
storage industry Giants. If you see, every one of them is a hardware, appliance place, and they're in for a total shock and give it one account. Alright, so it is if I understand here, you said it for from a VMware environment, I've got vsan underneath, I Got Talent do above and you were providing that object service in between so far for our friends, in the, in the channel Market in Wittmann, thinking about Kier anything that be sand, can sit on, you just can come along for the
ride to do. Do I have that right? Yeah, who is basically a bunch of gay bars right now? And this is not a hardware Appliance anymore. Ray, you are not in the club world and everything looks loud naked. And in this case, even the object storage Hardware, Appliance a schnoodle to play because we become the new and then they Everything. As a data data stored on a date of persistence, Laird to only the soft offer they get to play on top of the umbrella. In the new world, including the storage
solution is is listed as his native. So now you mention Bistro 7. Bistro 7 update one that has for kubernetes work. I'm assuming then you can plug into tanzoo, you can plug into Amazon as your other kubernetes options out there is is is that the case from a customer to find out if you are on the Enterprise ID environment in their system data services, Afraid and that is from the private Cloud point of you. Say it. And it's purely software. You're not reading for six months by the hardware to a raven
long procurement cycles and provisioning. All that is now Russia. And as a software container in just five minutes, you can actually set up a private cloud in perspective, for the private Cloud. But why, the reason why customers want this to be a software problem is they roll out that soft bed on the, on the, on the public Cloud for both were closed and it's a strange World close on private and public Cloud. 9 critical jobs at anything that needs fast-moving and convenience base. They push it to public law to have
to they want a pure software solution that I know this all the data side the computer and now the data storage parking spot result. Now is what does this do to the end-user? Now they can build software and truly Deploy on, public-private our age without any modifications and entirely this a software problem. What, what do you find are? Some of the more prevalent use cases at, you know, sitting on top. What? What applications are the key ones that people are flying or solution for? Yeah, two in the public Cloud. If you see that's that that's
actually a good place to start if you seen the public Cloud, right? Starting from even simple, static website hosting two big data workloads to even the modern databases like snowflakes, for example, has been in the best, three of them came, everything else, and it now that trend is beginning to percolate into the Enterprise. And surprisingly we found that the Enterprise was at the explosion of data growth is actually not aboard. Look at videos. Right? What are they related data? And these are basically like some kind of
log data, event data data streams. Has become the right choice, just like, in the public cloud. And now, I'm at Lake spring booth and the elders from there to a pretty much everybody. Yeah, I know, I absolutely you seen some of those use cases. Very prevalent here in the VMware Community. I heard you talking about it. I was expecting to hear you talk about Splunk data protection. Something that's been a big topic of conversation in the last few years. Obviously VMware has a number of key I'll partner. So I'm assuming many of
those are very few are also working with What's Planck's Bank itself is actually, it is important that we did recently, with VMware. Finally, we can run Splunk natively on VMware and without any performance penalty and we can actually show like at least like one third of what it would cost to run a load. So I don't know themselves would like it, but I think that the company would like, what that's most likely. And this is where blank actually now can
sit on an iOS all decked out of their data stores because it's marked or underneath the previous Incarnation. We couldn't actually store huge amounts of data actually have access to the local drives and you can attach as many places as you want, then if you want more capacity, more more number. Price at a price point that even public load cannot be anywhere closer. And this is actually a sensitive part of them. They cannot read any push it to the public cloud
makes sense. But when did Ice produced outside piece of sensitive data and its usual him and they produced on an average like today, the kind of money growing at an accelerated pace and that you can now bring that work, load onto VMware. Finally I can can control the control this month deployment. This is something important for ID in the past. If you see big data workloads always ran on bare metal and Silas something. I do hate it right. This time. It is fixable.
Well, it sure sounds like the technology maturation has finally caught up on the VMware standpoint with the vision that you and the team had. So little to look forward now that you've got could kubernetes really being embraced by VMware starting, see maturation, the space, where do we go from here? So, if you see what they brought to the table, this time didn't actually catch up with the others, right? In the recent times happened in the open-source space and then the large vendors in the great open source. Locksmith is coming later
but this time around the Innovation Park and this and that is actually a big step forward in the USA Space. And the reason why it's a big step is TSA additional is designed for the sand and using the same thing as a model. Number was able to Large workload and that allowed entirely it to use the local driver. Possibly know what what we will see what you see is the Lord actually ran as a silo in the Enterprise, it was bigger workload. That was the applications that are underlined, their own develop shops and Enterprise. I ran
the it infrastructure. These three that not connected. And, finally, This Time Around by bringing him into the IT infrastructure, there's going to be a convergent. You will not defy. Those will get eliminated will now come to come to me and I will be embarrassed. I eat and everybody coming together. I think the best mixtape artwork. Well maybe I sure hope you're right and we would love to see the breaking down of silos things coming together. We've been a little bit concerned over the last few years that we are rebuilding, the silos in the cloud. We've got
different skill-set different there but we we slept some good Tech optimism here. I didn't say that we're going to move these sorts of. Thank you so much, great to catch up with you. And I definitely look forward to hearing more from you and your customers, the future to this wonderful beyond the issue. All right, we want to thank everybody for joining vmworld 2024. Dave Allante John Furrier, big thinks the whole production team and of course VMware and our sponsors for helping us to bring this content to you. As always. I'm streaming a minute and thank you for joining us on the cube.
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