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Shannon Champion, Director, HCI & CI Product Marketing at Dell Technologies, joins Stu Miniman for coverage of VMworld 2020.
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Application modernization helps businesses thrive in a post-pandemic world
BY SILVIA FREGONI
It has been imperative for business to deepen their digital transformation to accommodate the new demands for remote work and online operations imposed by the global pandemic. And an essential part of this process is the modernization of applications, necessary to drive innovation and give organizations a competitive advantage during and post-COVID, according to Shannon Champion (pictured), director of product marketing at Dell Technologies.
“One way that they’re able to do that [digital transformation] is by finding ways to flexibly and rapidly move workloads to where they make sense, whether that’s on-premises or in the public cloud,” Champion said. “And the new standard for doing this is becoming cloud native applications.”
Champion spoke with Stu Miniman, host of theCUBE, SiliconANGLE Media’s livestreaming studio, during VMworld. They discussed how enterprises can boost their IT modernization, Dell and VMware solutions for business dealing with modern and legacy infrastructures, and the challenges associated with the upgrade process. (* Disclosure below.)
Managing new and old applications
The modernization trend seems like a path of no return. A recent IDC report predicted that by 2025 nearby two-thirds of enterprises will be prolific software producers with code being deployed on a daily basis and that over 90% of applications at that time will be delivered with cloud native approaches.
“What’s really impressive, too, is the sheer volume of applications that are anticipated to be produced with these cloud native approaches,” Champion said. “It’s expected to be over 500 million new apps created with cloud native approaches by 2024 … the same number that’s been created over the last 40 years.”
Despite producing more and more native applications, many companies will still need to maintain their legacy, which often drives business-critical applications and workloads. Therefore, these organizations will need to look for solutions that help them manage both and allow them to remove some legacies at their own pace so that they can maintain business continuity, according to Champion.
“When you look at trends, especially for hyperconverged edge and cloud native, [they] are kind of taking up a lot of the airwaves right now,” she pointed out. “And I think the intersection of those two comes into play with things like the remote cluster support for VMware Cloud Foundation on VxRail, where you can run cloud native-based modern applications with Tanzu alongside traditional workloads at the edge.”
The idea is to support the client wherever they are on their modernization path. Some companies have developed in-house mature capabilities for Kubernetes and software-defined networks and may still want to use a reference architecture and build on top of VxRail for a specific custom cloud native application, according to Champion.
However, what Dell is finding is that many customers do not have this level of expertise in Kubernetes, especially at scale. “So, VMware vSphere, with Tanzu on VxRail, as well as VMware Cloud Foundation on VxRail, are ways to get a fast start on Kubernetes directly on vSphere, or kind of go with the full monte of VMware cloud foundation on VxRail,” she concluded.
Watch the complete video interview below, and be sure to check out more of SiliconANGLE’s and theCUBE’s coverage of VMworld. (* Disclosure: Dell Technologies sponsored this segment of theCUBE. Neither Dell nor other sponsors have editorial control over content on theCUBE or SiliconANGLE.)
From around the globe, it's the Q with digital coverage of vmworld 2020 brought to you by the end where and its ecosystem partners of the cube covered in vmworld 2020 or 11. Doing the cube for fear. We're doing it. Of course, virtually globally. Happy to welcome back to the program, one of our cute, alumni span and champion and she is the director of product marketing with Dell Technologies. Nice to see you and thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me. Good to see you as well as talking about building off of what was Project Pacific at last year's
show on talking about how kubernetes all the wonderful cloud-native pieces go in. So let's talk about application modernization, Shannon. Do you know what the theme is? I've talked about for number years, as you know, we need to modernize the platform and then we can modernize the applications on top of those. Soaps. Tell us what you're hearing from your customers and how Dylan VMware, then are bringing the solutions to help customers really long, that Journey. Yeah, and talk to you and stuff. So Enterprises are telling us that especially now more than ever. They are really looking
for how they must digitally transform. So they can drive Innovation and, and get a competitive advantage. And one way that they're able to do that is by finding ways to flexibly and rapidly move workload to where they make sense, whether that's on Thomas's, or in the public cloud. And the new standard for doing this is because there was a reason I D C future that predicted that by 2025 two-thirds of Enterprises will be prolific software producers with code being deployed, see on a daily basis and
applications at that time will be delivered with positive. Approach is so it's just kind of crazy to think and what's really impressive to is it the sheer volume of applications that are in New apps created with her and just kind of putting that into perspective, 500 million apps in the same. Number that's been created over the last 40 years. So it's a fun fun Trends to be part of it. It's it's really amazing. I when I, I talk to customers there's some it's like oh let me show you how many
apps I've done in the Creighton, last 18 months, it was like, great. How does that compare before? And they're like, we weren't reading apps for buying us. We are buying software, weed, Outsource some of those pieces. So, you know, that, that, that Trend we've been talking about for a number of years, is kind of everyone's, a software company does not mean that you know, where we're getting rid of the old business models, but it's in there. There are challenges there either expanding, and moving faster or, you know, making sure that I have the in-house. So bring us inside. What are some
of the big things? Your customers are telling you maybe that's holding them back from unlocking that Central. Yeah. Totally. You had a way with. We're also hearing that they're under estimating the challenges on how to get to kubernetes right and particularly at scale. How do you manage the ongoing operations in the net infrastructure? How do you support the various stakeholders operators and developers together? So there's really a wide range of challenges that businesses are facing. The other thing is that you hit on, you know, they're going
to be producing more and more applications, but they still need to maintain Legacy applications applications. Refactor or retire those Legacy at their own pace. So they can maintain business continuity people. Our job was always the environment to allow the applications to run in virtualization for years. It was well I knew if I fertilize something I could leave it there and it wasn't going to didn't have to worry about the underlying Hardware changes help us. Understand how does kubernetes fit into this
environment because other people don't want to even worry about it and infrastructure people. Now need to be able to change expand and you no respond to the business. So much faster than we might have been times fast. Yeah. So from an infrastructure perspective, working with you are based on time to really just the essence of that is to bring it operators and developers together for structure has a common set of management that the developer and The Operators can work in the language, they're most familiar with the
same language. When it comes to, in particular, with VMware tanzu on vxrail, we are delivering kind of a range of infrastructure options because, you know, people are still trying to figure out where they are in their communities readiness. Some people have really developed mature capabilities in house for kubernetes for software-defined networking. And for those customers, they still may want to know you as a reference architecture and build on top of the xrail. For, you know, a custom cloud-native, specific application. What we're finding is
more and more customers, so don't have that level of kubernetes especially at scale. And so VMware vsphere with ponzu on vxrail as well as being more clouds on the X-ray are ways to get a fast start on kubernetes or kind of go with the full monty of Well, if you keep bringing up the X-ray, of course they the whole wave of HCI was how do I enable Simplicity? We don't want to have to think about these, we want to just make it so that customers can buy a solution, of course, vxrail joint solution that, you know, heavily partnership with VMware. So Shannon says, there's a few
options VMware, has been moving, very fast to expand out this into portfolio, back to the beginning of the year when Bistro 17 out. You needed to feel more cloudfoundation, which of course, what was an option for 4 for the BX, real help us understand you laid out a little bit, some of those options there but what should I know is at the Dell customer, you know what my options are, how the full tanza sweet fits into it. Yeah, so we like to call it kubernetes your way, with the extra also. We have a range of options to fit your operational or descale requirements for your level
of expertise. Three options are first for customers that are looking for that tested, validated multi, configuration reference architecture, that will deliver platform-as-a-service or container. Is the server architecture for vxrail, which is what was known, as pivotal ready architecture, that may have minimum scaling requirements, they may have some of that expertise and how to manage at scale. The fastest path to get started with it with who venetis is the new VMware vsphere was TRON, 2 on DS Trail and then laugh. I mentioned kind of
that. Hi Leona mated. Turned on practices Cloud platform. That's the VMware Cloud foundation on vxrail, which is also known as cell Technologies Club. Platform and that option supports town zoo with software-defined networking and security built-in with that automated lifecycle management across the full stack. So really 3 past to it from a reference architecture approach to a fast pass on the external. Clusters all the way to the full Delta Cloud platform and Dell Technologies is the first and only really offering this breath of I'm doing
for structure deployment options. So customers can choose the best path for them, know, to let you know p.m. where lays out there their hybrid multi Cloud Solutions. So, of course they're there. Public Cloud the VMware Cloud on AWS. They have a solution the extended extended Partnerships. Now, with Azure, the offering with Oracle at the Vets coming and I guess I could think to just think of the Deltech Cloud on vxrail as just one of those other cloud. Hybrid multi Cloud solutions that do do I have that
right? Same stack, same management if I'm if I'm living in that damn world world, Yeah, so the dog. On-premises, hybrid Cloud. So, a lot of customers looking to reduce complexity, especially now, with the work-from-home initiatives that were sprung upon us and trying to put it to respond to that. And, you know, that the answer to that solving, some of that complexity is to jump into public cloud. Has a lot of customers, actually are driving a hybrid Cloud strategy, and approach, and we know many customers stores,
have that executive mandate, there's value in driving that untrimmed, hyper Cloud Technologies. Cloud platform is so you get the consistent operations in the consistent infrastructure and more of the public cloud like consumption experience, while having the infrastructure on-prem or security data low-calorie. The other reasons like that. So that's really where the Mr. Cloudfoundation, on VIA Rail comes into play, so, Leveraging, the VMware Technologies you have on Prime hybrid Cloud, it can connect to all those public Cloud providers that
you do talked about. So you have, you know, cortex plowed. And one of the new capabilities that are called Foundation is announced support for is remote clusters. So that takes us kind of from cloud all the way to Edge because you operate an operational efficiency with centralized management. Wonderful. I'm glad you brought up the edge pieces, of course, you taught the emerging space VMware, talking about AI talking about Edge. So he'll help us understand how much is it. December operational model. Is it even? Is that part of the
vxrail family, it was the State of the State in 2020, when it comes to how it fits into that Cloud Core at discussion that you phrased that when you look at Trends, especially for hyper-converged Edge and called taking up a lot of the right now. So he's going to play a big role in the adoption of both Cloud Native band Edge, and I think the intersection of those comes into play with things like the remote customer support for Via Rail. Run, cloud, cloud, native
applications with tan Zoo alongside traditional workloads at the edge. Traditionally have more stringent requirements, less resources. They need a more hardened environment, power and cooling with DCF and the Australians have all the operational. Goodness that comes from the partnership in the levels of integration that we have with r and customers can realize that promise of full workload management. Shannon. That we were wondering what general feedback you're getting from. Your customers is, is they look at cloud-native Solutions. Is
this a continuation of the HPI wave that that you've seen? Did they just pull this into their hybrid environment? Have any either, any specific examples that you guys are just the general just all that you're getting from your customers as to how they're doing expanding into these going to new environments that kind of stress them in different ways. Yeah, it's interesting cuz you know there's their customers that run the gamut. We look at those. They're sort of the farther down their digital transformation Journey. Those are the ones that
were already planning for cloud applications or had some in development based on the highest of Buster deployments and the range of customers that are more modernized in terms of their fine. For most customers. Especially over the last six months is that there were prepared to respond to the unknown and that was a big lesson or some of the other customers that, you know, had Getting their Investments to areas that can help them be more ready for the unknown, in the future and called nativism is half of that
list. People aren't they showed a few times others, the people in in the office. So, you know what, their whiteboard doing everything. And there's a wrecking ball of covid-19, kind of like, well, if you weren't ready and you weren't already down this path, you better move back until we know from past years. You know, vxrail usually is all over the show soap in the digital world. What do you want the key takeaways, what are some of the Hands-On demo session said that people should check out? Thank you. Yes. Hopefully your takeaway is that the X-ray was a great infrastructure to support my
application. First and foremost, we have jointly engineered systems built with the environment to enhance and we're, and we do that with our guest relations system software, which I didn't give a shout out to yet, which extends that native capabilities and really, is the secret behind how we do seamless automated operational experience with the ex Rail. And that's the case, whether it's traditional or modern applications. So, that's my little commercial for vxrail at the show. Please tune into our vmworld session on this topic. We also
have Hands-On Labs. We are launching a fun augmented reality game. Please check that out and we have a new web page as well that you can get access to all the latest assets and guys that help you navigate your journey. Dell Technologies. Calm Zoo. Wonderful. Well, thanks so much. Great to see you again and be sure to look forward to hearing more in the future. Say what this like more coverage from vmworld 2020? I'm assuming as always, thank you for watching the cube.
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