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Topic: FinTech

The blockchain enthusiast and visionary attended CoinGeek London and spoke with Johanna Botta on what’s going on with BSV in the global community.

Visit: https://coingeek.com/alexander-shulgin-gives-insight-into-the-latest-global-bsv-campaigns-video/

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1:00 - Introduction speech from Alexander Shulgin

12:29 - Alexander's advise to company on what blockchain to build on for their platforms

29:05 - Coingeek Coinveration with Alexander Shulgin

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Alexander Shulgin
Chairman Of The Board at Minery.io
Daniel Diemers
Co-Founder & Partner at SNGLR Group
Jimmy Nguyen
Founding President & Co-Founder at Bitcoin Association
Ron Austring
President at Daedalos

Alexander, Shulgin as a visionary, has more than 15 years of investment and venture capital experience. He is unique Russian composer who successfully combines creative work with business. He effectively manages “GRUPPA KOMPANIY FAMILIA”,( www.familia.ru), which specializes in investment and venture capital in the blockchain, media, new media, publishing, and entertainment sectors. He is one of the founders of the 5 Continent Consulting Group specializing in IT-sector, biotechnologies, and financial management. Partner of the iTech Capital Fund, which is a major stakeholder of such leading companies as BitFury, Clickky, Ticketland, AviaSales, QIWI post, SeoPult Group, Garpun, MFM Solution and others. He found and running Rasia Capital – investment boutique with focusing on Asia.

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Co-Founder and Partner at SNGLR Group, a hybrid tech company focusing on exponential technologies. see: https://snglr.group Formerly: Partner, Financial Services, at Strategy& (formerly Booz & Company, Booz Allen Hamilton), MD Switzerland and Head Blockchain EMEA. He has been serving clients in the financial services industry in development of successful growth strategies. His industry expertise covers retail and wholesale banking, private banking/ wealth management, consumer finance and insurance. Preferred themes are growth strategies, market entry/ regional expansion, digital innovation/ FinTech/ Blockchain, operating model optimization, and risk & regulatory. During his academic years, he has worked on collaborative, technology-enabled business models for knowledge management and early warning systems, and, more generally, on the social impact of new media, publishing his own books and articles, while speaking at conferences in Europe and the USA

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Jimmy Nguyen is one of the world’s top Bitcoin and blockchain advocates. He is a renowned public speaker, media commentator and global ambassador for Bitcoin SV. Jimmy joined nChain and then helped launch the Bitcoin Association after a 21-year career as an intellectual property and digital technology lawyer. He is a Certified Information Privacy Professional/U.S. In 2008, Lawdragon named him (at only age 36) one of the “500 Leading Lawyers in America” and described him as a “dynamo talent.” He has also been recognized by the Century City Bar Association as “Intellectual Property Lawyer of the Year” (2011), and by the Association of Media & Entertainment Counsel with its Industry Leader Award (2017). For his diverse leadership, Jimmy has been named a “Top 100 Under 50 Diverse Executive Leader” (2015) by Diversity MBA magazine and was inducted into California Minority Counsel Program’s Diversity Hall of Fame (2015).

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Ron Austring is a man of many interests and talents. An avid sailor who has spent significant time living aboard his sailboat, Ron now channels his passion and awe for nature into his self-sufficient modern hydroponic farm where he uses elements of nature efficiently. Ron is a master of efficient systems whether he’s on the waves, on the farm, or on a computer. The founder and co-founder of several software companies including Zadall Systems Group, Inc., G/H Plus Pharmacy Systems, American Data Systems, PDX Inc., RxStudio, and Drugstore.com, Ron has brought his talents once again to system design and development for EHR Data. Ron approaches all of his work in the pharmacy industry with one focus: Patient Safety. He is well known to comment, “If it’s not good for the patient, it’s not good for us.” As a sought-after speaker and panelist at technology conferences around the world, Ron speaks about the next steps in blockchain and healthcare technology. Ron has a wealth of experience and a brilliant ability to take a seed—an idea, a need, a better way of making a system work—and nurturing that seed to fruition. We are honored to have Ron at the core of our mission to decentralize patient data and put control into the patient’s hands.

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Well, first of all. And what did you think of that presentation? Because it concerns Health by the processes are very, very slow and inefficient. And what strikes me as his statistics, is that in Emerging Markets, third world countries about 60% of the medicine that goes over the counter in the in the pharmacy is fake is actually kind of Faded by by organizations to take the real medicine, sell it on the black market, put some powder in it and sell it to an end. This is something that can be

tackled. This is the trust that's lacking in that industry and there's nothing to you even the regulation addressing it right now. Let me start with Alexander and tell us about you and you how you got into the blockchain world because you had a long story history through various Industries and have to tell us how you're getting. Enterprise volcano, easy, its music helps in 1999 when I was around my neighborhood music publishing which we fight with piracy and then

I realize it won a big service, using my catalog. And my friend from Estonia Tallinn to I know one was a flounder three founders. I want no one of the founders and his guy. We just went to school together. Speak with a heart with him when I met him. Why you? Why you fighting for my catalog. And he explain me about here to fear telling you, maybe I'm telling he's explaining the 6th and then when it's ready to invest money to my trust company. Which one is, which is better. A

try to make this technology to Enterprise background initially was at, I was a coder back in the 80s 90s. So that's why I probably, when, when blockchain technology came up, I was very fascinated. I then became an academic researcher. So I did a PhD on her interesting subject can trust to develop in entirely virtual communities to communities that never see each other face-to-face cuz I was researching that and then after some start up a time so I ended up in strategy Consulting just a very

interesting field. Strategy comes all things. Basically means you work as a consultant but yeah xclusively at the board level Co level and you do basically strike Do you work, right? So you helped companies shape their future growth. Also solved maybe technological issues if they want to replace their text back and things like that. So what are the first question. I talked with company a lot about when they approached me as they did. I was in Moscow last week with Alexander and a blockchain and sports event that he hosted great event. By the way, Alexander, I see, I want to do

this now in the blockchain. But the thing I often say to people first is not everything. Needs to be done on a Blog Chase, like literally internet days where everyone wanted a calm. And so I want to ask the panel start with Ron. We heard about it, obviously from the pharmaceutical world but what kinds of Enterprise applications and functionalities? Do you think our best match for blockchain? Use anything? You can think of besides the pharmaceutical world and I think anything that has Digital Data And financial component of that is just right for that

kind of a an industry or something that can be taken in a physical form and easily digitized like a, like a title or something like that. I think it's far as the industry's, you know, government is right up their insurance, publishing all the standard stuff but I think the key here is that just the early adopters will be anybody that has electronic data beta in electronic form that. And I know that sounds funny, they didn't electronic form, but anything anything that you are selling, that is the digit. Digitized, what about you, what kinds of things do you

think are best used for blockchain technology? An enterprise-level told you. I know if I was you from there, you speak up a little bit louder entertainment, music For media entertainment. The sport technology, which is will be a perfect example. The content is King, the Netflix Spotify, YouTube, they are King, they stay between our creators and the fun they keep old data to create a Sim to make up the movie makers musician. They don't know. They don't they okay. They have

so many downloads so many visitors and respect accuracy in the Masterpiece Masters book and passport. For example it's not only will be in pharmaceutical it because it wada will not can manipulate with Auntie doping because everything The reason they in in the oldest chemical pharmaceutical tech support reborn after season in the UK, has kept New Era Olympic Games with only five days per week. 8 hours, today. Acknowledge revaluation. But now our nation and a

people who kept much more free time, and this free time, we'll go to entertainment and to support and Sports. Mix the outlets in Cypress on the computer that they were around the world by the little mix. I want to clarify one thing you mentioned for the audience you mention wada, which is why I oughta are, we talked about this with a lot of the sports officials last week in Moscow, that's the world anti-doping Association, which is charged by the international Olympic Committee and other butter called Angie B's. National governing bodies of sports to test for doping in

sports. And one thing I had not realized until last week, is that walking to be used to help improve the reliability of doping Sports test because they got have Silo data as well. We're different countries are responsible for testing their athletes. They also go to International competition tested by different officials and there's not enough interoperability of the testing data to ensure reliability and that's a fascinating potential use of blockchain. Generic answer to question cuz I have two exactly same discussions and I'll do we need a blockchain? Don't we need to

Belch and can we do it in the database? I have a simple test that answers face the two questions. Is there a serious issue of Austin existing system that you want to solve like counterfeit medicine in Pharmaceuticals, maybe Sports cheating and all we had coronavirus as an example yesterday. Very interesting, you know, cheater and becomes an issue. The second test is more difficult is around, is the system extremely complex distributed and with a lot of microtransactions, I mean, let's fast forward 10 years here in London, I'm from Switzerland. I couldn't drive a single hour. Here

myself involved, it's very confusing the roads, but probably in 10 years a icore self-driving cars will be moving around the city and very few people will actually steer their cars themselves in such a world where a iced tea. Vehicles that we sit in who's going to do all the transactions in between, you know, the communication is going to be payments. Microtransactions all your past the toll gate, you're loading up maybe electricity from the road and in such systems, the system. I mean we're not going to pay with credit card-swiping or

any today's payment application. I think the only answer to that must be blockchain and a technology like this, we obviously with with the features it has would probably have interesting use cases but I think we need to think really into this. When we say we have a lot of mountains, we always say, look beyond the next mountain, right? Don't just look up the first mountains at war with ugent, all, but think of what's behind it and probably there's another Mountain coming there. I think the second test has an interesting one, because the outworld in the future would be full of very

complex, interconnected distributed systems that all want to communicate with each other's all the way, I don't bump into me, I'm on the fast track. Pay you, if you can make way because I want to need really got your strength quickly. I all these interactions transactions will probably have to have to happen on the blockchain into how companies evaluate watch blockchain or distributed ledger works best for them or their projects. Ron you talked about it a bit in your speech but can you walk us through your company's process in which ones you considered? If you can

tell us and how you are standing up on the cleanest meat? Yes, I was looking at hyperledger and is hosting it probably within our industry. Getting a group of our industry players together and weed for my hyperledger kind of Block Chain solution, right? Then we started then I started looking them and that's, you know, what is appealing? Because it has, you can get high transaction through foot with these, you know, private blockchain and stuff. Then I started looking at a company called arching and it was, it was appealing Give me because

our biggest issue with with any of these Solutions annoying. We kind of after looking at it, we wanted to go to a public blockchain, there wasn't a public blockchain at the time that was advertising that they could do the transaction through put, right? So bad that I knew of. And so I looked at our chain because their solution was going to be this, you know, this these all these shards basically multiple blockchains. And as I follow their project and listened in on all their conference calls, they do you know they they had all kinds of internal issues that never really allowed them to

launch and I think they're getting, you know, I think they're slowly getting there and, you know, hopefully we don't we will see what happens with him. But when I discovered bch, at the time, that was the solution that we were looking for. And that was, you know, the numbers look good for us. As far as what we need, I didn't mention our transaction volume. But is, as you can see, from the numbers, it, it's huge. Right? So we we would average something like five to six thousand transactions. II will be our need. So that's that's very important to us. That we have a technology underneath

that that'll sport that you talk to companies. Now I'm what are the types of factors? They look at to evaluate what blockchain platform to build on or what do you tell them? If it will use a case of sweet that we made for government? We got one from Georgia government, listen to lights for the Easter Poland and for governmental property for sale in Georgia, using blockchain technology, VA yourself for me. It's very easy to test flight and also for supply chain also for Marketplace, if it's very important. So people

and companies looking for something to do. Really lie about Lucien, it is for this moment Evolution. Did they try to the try to move? Use more effective. They exist in. This is a good step because after this, they will be able to make that which, to choose what's been important in particular. How important is the amount and predictability of fees? Well, it's very, very disillusioning here because he I mean your example as you are or not the average CEO, you're pretty Advanced because he looked at you no cash and you

were evaluated hyperledger Nutters. I mean I I spend the night. And not many doing the blockchain ecosystem. Many spent more than 10-15 days a year in boardrooms, right? Right. It's a very special world. It's very different and spending a lot of time there. I can tell you the questions that you were asking. They were Irrelevant for them at the moment right now. And they're not asking, I mean, if they hear unlimited block size, it's not a good thing cuz they sound so that's probably than too big than what I need. And spread way too expensive. Is something is unlimited. It's too expensive. So

I think we need to change the lingo. We need to change the communication. There's a communication gap between the boardrooms of large corporates. I'm I'm specifically talking about large corporates, the right to have interesting use cases. I see, I see in the criteria for factors that in my discussions in boardrooms, with Toc Toc, really matter to them question. Number one is governance. Who is in control of that blockchain? Is it a person? Is it? No one. Is it, an organization? I am. So how credible are the people I'm going to deal with because obviously you

know if that's no stops. So looking good to them. They're afraid they don't want to build something on something. That's what that's also, the reason why hyperledger is very, very popular in the corporate world and of course, I know I be. So this is, this is one number two, is there, of course, interested in the specs. So they want to know. Is there is the technology good enough for what we need? But, I do right price. So this is where you question about these comes in. He just needs to make economic sense, but they're probably not that. They're not probably looking for the

technically, most excellent solution, but just something that does the job at the right price. And thirdly, very interesting of courses, regulation legal aspects. If that blockchain technology does not go, well, go down well with their relevant regulators and four letter International pharmaceutical company. The FDA but it's many other jurisdictions and their local Regulators. So if the blockchain is not compatible with those Regulators hands off and on no CEO, no chairman in the world wants to get into a battle over all. Why did you salute make a sandwich and forth? And

they said, this is something I think important for us here in the room echo system. So they're going to have got to find one. If I find out, you know, how big is the supporting ecosystem if they decide to go in at 8 with bsv Cam day, in six months higher five world-class top-notch bsv developers in their company. In IT department in the stock market is not there and it's hard to find these people and they're all having different jobs in there. They're not willing to work for a large corporate. It's going to be tough. So what we discussed yesterday to certification for being a

PSV developer that's all going to help. But of course the larger the crowd is the larger date available Market, the more interesting with cats and especially if they asking her own it Department. Who of you knows about that blockchain technology? And the CTO shrugs and says, never heard of it. I don't know about it, and let's ask someone else. So companies don't want to get in the high dependence on the, on the next Turtle, comes out to your or it provider. So, these are the four factors in a thing as governments. It's really price for value at the right level. The regulatory side is this

thing, or my Regulators going to like it, or am I putting myself into big trouble? And then 4th is, is the size and, and then quality of the ecosystem, we recognize that's why we are doing so much work to launch. This developer training initiative and also, the certification is about our ability to communicate to the business market place that this is a person that we believe satisfy certain requirements from training. I think that's hopefully you understand now, why back in for an Initiative for us

Expert Rite Aid, make some online courses, they learned that script language and then three months later, they say, oh I'm accomplished blockchain developer and and this is where certifications, very important. One of the things that people talk a lot about in evaluating the platform to build a project on. Is this question of public blockchain vs. Private blockchain, ask Gregg. Write anything that is not a public watching is not a blockchain. And that is a redundant term, is his belief, in our belief, a blockchain is inherently public, otherwise is not really a blockade, otherwise it's just

a database. But on this question of a public Ledger vs. A permission to private Ledger, maybe that's the better way to discuss it. How are you finding companies? Are you even understand the consequences of each different choice? And how are you finding? What factors do you use to make a decision? Sasha are you Seeing that discussion among the companies you're involved with. I want to know one thing about the public and private blockchain. Blockchain Bitcoin. Blockchain it is only one infrastructure which was built by all of us

non-government. No companies, no big companies, only by us. There is no other technology was built by us. Infrastructure and it's only Bitcoin blockchain or other white paper house, a doctor, write a book and what is important to talk to the companies. You know what this means digital-native. And this was digital native Mobility 94. Now I called decentralized native to which is 20 years old, they complete the note, they don't like centralization completed by Nature by nature of the original. So every

company which one bite people, this is making it about 6 years old, easy, listen, if you want to see, if you see if it's 55 years old, it's much more easy to to talk into you. Play me about them acknowledge it. Ron, I'll see you explain a little bit about why you chose a public blockchain. How do you think other Industries would evaluate that question of private vs public? Would you tell them? I think everybody starts out when your corporation and you think you need a private one, right? But if you

get into it, though, the more you understand that like every corporation in the United States initially probably had their own internet but you look at the progression of the internet, every corporation put in an intranet and they discovered over time is that if it makes no sense at all to have an internet, right? You wouldn't want to be on an internet because then you can talk to all your trading partners. All the stakeholders very seamless me. Where is having an internet in there is just adding a lot more complexity than what you need. I think I would make a

prediction that in a few years. We won't even see private blockchain, right? It'll be public. So Yeah, we like to say we don't want to World of a thousand Watching Project. We want one with thousands of uses up a lot about this would run says but I'm willing to bet a bottle of wine in Saint Lucia. Yusuke's is world's correct. Spelling rights for some smaller use cases but then of course, you can always say, why don't you just buy a database? But maybe it sounds cooler or it makes a nice entry in the annual

report to say, we have our permission blockchain, I think I'm going to check it and no one's going to ask questions from the shoulders, but I think there was I think prospectively. It has to be public. I mean think again of the city of London autonomous car driving thing. I mean if a folded carmakers develop their own thing, maybe they even got her to get her to a permission blockchain, but then these things need to interact with the infrastructure. The roads. Lights electricity at Sarasota. The system becomes more and more complex and if you built this on a lot of permission

blockchains in their own ecosystem, think we're set up for disaster, right? I was just going to say that we're disaster and the livestream who are the Builders of the future on bitcoin SV is watching in particular. But what advice would you give people watching as to what they can create or develop that would help Enterprises build more easily and better things on blockchain? I gained I will advocate for sports media entertainment. Just try to make it

in this sector will tell me how to make easy Creation in easy access to the to the master please. This is for my running one must have been before digital. Are you know, that it was Master P, unlimited be the same quality and then it's so much piracy in the table but now is a blockchain will be talking to can make only one master tape on the one file and instead of distribution of million files in it in traffic and service and everything. He can just allowed access to his

master and he will know the day that you will know the ins. They will know exactly. Where is it would probably actually change the whole concept in Music La licensing of Master yoo's licenses. Then what would you think? I'm sweet. So I can probably say whatever I want ride to her all weekend so I know exactly. Thanks the Moto As I understood that it's time to build and build it and ship it and go to market. I think this technology has so much potential that we shouldn't wait and do now two years of

building and then go to market and I think we should go to market now today. Say, where are the interesting use cases and for Builders to build together with large corporates co-creator? It's dicey a riskier of Justin Building Solutions and Dobson and then somebody will pick it up and suddenly a large corporation. Would say all I left. I'm going to use it. I think it's a good way to just go out there. Say this is what we got. This is what we have. We have good to developers. What is your most burning you skate? And then let's build together. So, it's time to build and engage at

the same time, I think that that's really where the power would come to get her because there's a lot of use cases out there. All right? And if we wait too long, if we wait, 2-3 years to go out, I promise you, most of the large corporates have already built their stuff because this is now the time when they're all looking at it and it says this is your first Bitcoin SV Conference & event. Now, very interesting talks. Especially in the brakes and uninteresting presentations here. Now, thank you for inviting me. You're welcome. Thank you for being here and Ron. What would you advise are

recommended to our audience about how they can be helping companies like yours, and others, billed. As a, I'm an engineer. I'm always looking towards the tooling, right? So, I think, like, if you are, if you're an enterprising, you're looking for an Enterprise solution, Mary spino companies like and shame that are perfect for you, right? If you're kind of a lobbyist or a hacker, or you got this great idea, but you just want to test out the concept and something like a plan, the area is perfectly right, right? Where you can just test out the concept and see if it's going to work and then go get

your funding to actually build a solid Enterprise behind that. So I think tooling is is really important and and also the word press kind of a template right where I want to build a website. But I want cryptocurrency e-commerce. Bitcoin SV Built into it. We're going to see probably templates like that where you just do your selections of colors and everything like that. And it puts the money button on there and how many have done for you think? For me, it's the tooling side of it that bright Alexandra, leave you with the last word because you

know you are known across the world as a very very accurate Visionary predictor of Technology Trends. He speaks at major events around the world but what's your prediction of what's going to happen with the Bitcoin SV Block in an ecosystem? Over the next five to ten years. Thank you for the question. I will always say now to my colleagues who work with different decentralized Technologies, I say you choose some other protocols or technology because you don't know

nothing about because this week please meet between the sweet and then you will definitely choose to instead of every other Plainfield thousands of different protocols, which is most of them, knaves, so I hope that more and more people every month or every year, will join the queen is sweet, and that's we'll make for them and plastic opportunity. Fantastic Future and only we are all together. Can make a fantastic future. Awesome. Be good this week. Hi, guys. I'm Johanna Botta from corned beef, and I'm here with Alexander shulgin, AJ Sasha of your know you're a Visionary of all things that Trends

in this space. So I'm supposed to go back to 2009. Did you ever foresee this happening? Everything is happening with all the different Innovation. With all the different apps that we that you can use it for health care or for seafood. You know, supply chain. You know what white people call me if you can. Because in 2008 they publish my forecast about electronic money. It wasn't my money before I leave before we will go for cash list completely Cash. Plus also, I predict that

it will be only six, different money to fly to Europe in 50 different currencies, Euro, slot changed, just spoke with head of Tourism of Russia than they radiate exciting to see how it would work between PS3 and Russian tourism tourism in general. The old Sam the event which will be held in Moscow school book sheet for sports. Pretty famous club. Go to the time in torrent client for school board member was attending This event has been exciting about the ski and do you want to jump through the sector and they

also waiting for more information from us because we all know how to use it and what can be offered to them. So let's think across so this was completely. So I was really honoured to be impossible for media entertainment and too much protein, drink treat and this exciting sector.

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