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But I'm going to introduce the moderator and then they will introduce themselves. So we have Shantel from Crown b as our moderator. We have Michael and we have Arrow, so I'm going to give a give a warm welcome to them because it's the morning. I need you to give a little extra Pap too, cuz I know you got it in you. Okay. At an extra smile and an extra class doesn't cost that much. So because it's the morning, give him a little extra pad and please welcome to the stage. Bigger.
How's it going, guys? Good morning. Well, so thanks everyone for joining in on our discussion today about building on Cosmos. And if he's better versus and the cloud, I'm since, he'll go ahead you guys. So my name is are lovely. Now. My company is three Division and we built on nft game on Kosmos called strange plan. All right, let's go. So if you guys don't know what that is, you guys got to join the clan. Name of the game again called strange plan. so,
Michael, awesome. Hey, my name is Michael. So fair, I'm director of entities at tendrement which is one of the cosmos Court development shops. I'm also found a CEO of a company called pylons, which is a digital item, life cycle engine. So, it sort of an easy nft creation system. We have a flutter SDK, and we're basically a no code. And if she system for mobile Developers, All right. So first question of the morning was good. A little bit, a little bit more but let's go hit me.
How are you contributors to the cosmos Network? Ask you a question. Oh, I mean the inner chain is this like glorious multifaceted? Garden of of of you know, blockchain to lights and every every Zone on The Interchange bring something to the table and just buy sort of being connected and being there and delivering something, you know, you you put yourself there and people can put you in in to work flows of their own, right? Like IBC is so smooth, and IBC 2.0 is about to come out and big upgrade anime. So, so obviously makes makes
all of this Cross gym stuff so much smoother. So being able to say, you know, you can, you can make plans items and you can use them in other stuff on the Chain. You can, you know, what the menu me for whatever Financial purpose? So you can like, you know, you could do some. You can auction them off on a court contracts or something like that, that kind of behavior is what were sent here to here to contribute. So, you know, I really think that just, like, showing up and doing doing something that's like, different and special, even if it's a small thing in the inner chain, contributes to the
cosmos community in sort of brings us all to the great energy and Future. Well, that's what that's one thing that we were looking at. Where did we want to launch and appys at the time, Cosmos didn't have a lot of easy tools to be able to launch. I've teased, but we saw within the cosmic community that anything that you put in there eventually create this ripple effect where there's more value added on top of every project is built in there because they all connect together. And then you also have bridges that lead out to you. No other blockchain.
So even if you have a block chain, that isn't within the cosmos, you still have the ability to connect to it and I don't think I've seen the 11th of innovation stacking anywhere else said so that's wanting to let us there until we feel like everything that we do to one even just collaborate with other projects on the on the chain, that adds more to it, but Also, there's that there's that overall collaborative spirit that I feel like I've been seeing too many other places on Cosmos vs other
chains. I like that. I actually interviewed Michael at one point and I liked Michael's reason for why he wanted to bring a 10ft development to do Cosmos. So you do remember what you said? So he asked me if that you never been to a party where you at when you walk in the party, you had to wear clothes that they gave you and we walked out. You had to not wear those clothes anymore. The the interconnected nature of Bob watch and so you could literally bring anything any digital asset you have to all of their chains that are built
on their to me that that was like, that makes the most sense because honestly blockchain should become invisible like that the lines between where one Watch a meeting others become invisible. We just talked about the internet as the internet, right? First is the individual websites that make it up. So I think that's probably one of the key differences is that winter, Captain us. Yeah, I think, you know, for me, there's like a real, like, economic philosophy. Peace to that hug to that, which is that liquor, from my perspective, what I really like the most about
web3 is, is the creator economy aspect of it and, and basically, getting away from the rent, seeking aspects of the existing economy where like you have to pay for playwright everyone. Every every audience, every place. You can go, there's someone owns that channel and you have to pay that person and You know, I'm really excited about this. That's worth trying to push the digital Fashion World in the other direction where there isn't, you know, as much of like, this idea of a shelf space of like this, you know, here's this collab between this
designer and this venue, but like, you can actually, like have a direct relationship with their designer that you're into you in, like, collect that stuff and and then use that stuff wherever. And and then you don't have this like sense where the artist of the world are Hostage to the lake, you know, fashion industry of the world. So that to me that's like a big a big sort of like political Vision that I want to see happen. And I think the Creator economy is really about like Changing the power Dynamic of where stuff is owned, where it's held removing it from
venues at removing, the type coupling from venues and and sort of like taking some of the power away. From these people who don't build, he's been using end and then try to like, extract rents from the audience. They're both like, one of the things that like it, you have people who are making cheese on aetherium and then they get locked into the, the rules in the bottlenecks of aetherium, rather than than getting stuck there. Why couldn't they just go to another chain? And my
great and in use utilities of other change in the benefit. The weather change your eyes Innovations of each chain emerge. That that's kind of excited me about it. Just the stacking of Cosmos. What's exciting? So adoption of meta vs. Where do we see the scouting? So I feel like we still haven't figured out what the like, what the definition of a metal versus because everyone's talking about how their building about a verse or even saying. Hey, we're finally building a better Versed and we have are we have passes to eat. So we have another project to call Pastor. Sweetie. If you spend any time on
our strangeland Twitter, you'll find passage sweetie as well. But basically, it's a World Builder, but then, what does it mean when we say metaverse? Are we saying like a bunch of different? A bunch of different interconnected world is. I think that sounds a little bit like a month anniversary rather than it being. Actually one specific Place, one specific area or want. Somebody's one specific. Metaverse, I think that the interconnected part makes more sense to me because, you know, you don't just have one profile on social
platform anymore. You have a profile on this platform and profile on this platform and profile on this platform. Why can they be connected? And I think a lot of the way that the metaverse is going is that you have some kind of congruent identity that goes across you all these different platforms and all these different metal vs. Yeah. So, you know, I think I don't really pluralize metaverse. I think the saying we're building a metal versus like saying we're building an Internet. It's like not you know, it's There's one metaverse in my opinion and it's all of these venues in all of these
tools that and the way they linked together and that's the metaverse and saying, you know, I went when someone says we're building a metaphor. So I just think that there I think that they're like, you don't look like private Equity. That's what I immediately think. It's like. Oh, okay. You don't have to go get it now on the one is old so late, you know. I think you're right because I think that it is like the like that's why we're on Cosmos. Is it the internet of blockchains do the metaverse account? Like at the Universe versus right at the
internet, always your friend very interactive spaces, right. And you'll be able to space is in that utility can have with cheesy bring into this basis of gaming and social media and the innovations that the internet brought have starting to come together. Together in a little bit more of a cohesive way. So what unique experience are you guys bringing to the table with let's say gamification did nft experience that that your platforms. Do you want to daily basis? Yes. So what problems does that? No one else is doing
it. Is we have a no code blockchain experience. So we have a flutter SDK and if you're flooded developer, you can build the blockchain game and you don't and you can design your blushing transactions and Jason, you don't even have any smart contract programming. You don't need to build a wallet. You don't need to run a chain. You just publisher, Jason to our chain, and our wallet will mediate your users transactions, and you can just build watching game. So, that's what we're trying to do is, like, make her about is accessibility. And that means developer, accessibility, as well as use
accessibility. They were building, you know, what the most user-friendly, and if you want, we can build And I were building the most developer-friendly, that's the case we can build and we really want to see. I personally really want to see this space change from a space of speculation to space Commerce. Like I want to see you like and users were playing games and having a good time and whose mission is to play games and have a good time and not to lick flip a token. Right? Like, this is something that like I couldn't see which is just like, what is all of this, all of
this money in speculation in the end is predicated on somebody. At the end of the day, feeling like a customer spending money, getting a product and being done and not looking to make a profit, right? But there has to be in the end customers. So, like that sort of his has been. What I'm trying to do is like, how do we get there? How do we get like Gamers or just want to play a game? Right? And so that's a great segue for me cuz we're kind of build a game that Gamers want to play and I think that there's a lot of games out there or lock companies out there that have focused. On Yelp. Well,
how can we make D5? You know, how can we bring Define to a game? And we basically looking at what do Gamers already do that has essentially amassed billions of dollars in many of these individual games that revolve around microtransactions. So you got microtransactions, but there was no actual product. That's that's their, it's it's a, it's a lot of just digital code that can never leave that party. And once you bought it, you actually, you can't return it and you also can't sell it
to anybody else. It's essentially just burnt and that money is gone. So what if you could create a secondary Market behind that until kind of our aim is to want that to be a thing. They want to buy a digital goods are earned. It has actually like mean something. They could sell to other people. That's why you have Gamers who try to sell their bear steam accounts, because they want to take the things that they've built up in this account. And I'll send it over someplace else until I think that gives that the tools within teasing and defy
give the ownership not just you two player then also to the developers as well, where you have developers. Now, able to better monetize these gaming experiences. There were out there trying to create a game that really aimed more at being a fun experience. Really pulls you in his immersive and then with our other project passes 3D, we're trying to create a 3D world where your you can't send it to you FaceTime and a 32 or walking around to the world and then giving the ability for people to you. I just have those social interactions, but then also
care about the digital. Items that exist within like this, this digital world. So you're staying time. Now, online with friends. You have an immersive face-to-face experience those friends. So why not have also the things that exist in the world around? You be things. You also own and have actual tangible value behind So, if I wanted to all the sudden, I guess, sign up on strange Clan. What, what things can I have? A strange planet is in the early development are we did
our first time to launch a man feels longer ago. It was actually just in October and 3D is something that is what you just reach out to us and we can pull you into a passage world. Today. We, we didn't actually developing that long before we actually start getting deeper into watching. But we've hosted events for American Girl. We've been immense war on Amazon and Capitol Records. Will you have the boom talk with Nickelodeon information about some future events? Do we have people who are actually using our stuff? And I appreciate about this community. Is that
you Builders who are bullying things people are using today and I think that that that has attracted us to really wanting to collaborate with everyone cuz it isn't about speculation. It's about. All right now, let's build a valuable today. What integration is do you guys think or scalable? I'll let you go without the first, what Integrations? Do we think are scalable. Yeah, I mean, I think. You can do a lot of sort of Lake, you know, this thing being we can do a lot of presents. You can do a lot of like, item transformation. So, you know, I visited when I was coming out and I
think it's got significantly better, our PC stuff so you can do callbacks across IBC and say like, hey, I want to execute this, you know, transaction from this chain, where the items are currently lives, but like, you know, the transaction happens on the home changed, so there's there's that kind of thing, you know. I think, you know, it's hard to see in a gratian's episode of the real time level. Right? Like when you're doing, you do multiple transactions a second or something extra. Sure. I'm not going to be, we're not at that place yet, But I really like this idea. I
really like fashion. I really want by Alanis to be like a fashion Clearing House. So and then that's like a very intergration. Heavy thing. I'm talking to people who have a new IP projects about doing like, Clearing Houses for books or music, or for stuff like that rate, like that. I think we can do that. You know, ticketing is, it has a lot of integration and wait, so we're taking apps are like, you know, you're, you're, you're you're talking to other systems and plus it together. So, I think primarily it's around ownership. And right management is where like the integration
scalability really works. And then inserted, like, real-time gameplay stuff. I think, we're maybe not there yet. I don't even reach mobile. I mean, so he's way more of the technical side. I have I am doing a lot that we're doing a lot of game development side and get a lot of technical people. So I'm sure that went over to him. So I'm trying to do is I have a game company that that is here. I've been trying to be like any that's really need to be looking at Cosmos, get every single.
One of them was running into the issue of yo ft launch. One of the biggest things that was exciting for people with little to no gas, those like 6 or is like $0.06 for gas on Cosmos. And so I want to hear that. Keep people is like, look at your trying to actually do a transaction with a customer customer. I was freaked out about $3 shipping. So why do you think they're going to also get excited about your pain for the same value in gas as they are for the NFC that you're if you're selling and ultimately once we get away from have some of that
defy hype around out of cheese, you might also start to see people who are vying to use, but then you also have much more like consumer-centric. So maybe the only spend like $60 on a nasty into that. $60. If it's $100 in gas, all the sudden. Now, you're not transaction, just doesn't work anymore. So really pushing people towards a platform that doesn't lock them in to only using one platform and then also provides cheap gas. Scalable of Spas suspicion, right? I mean, has all the pros. They're so that's awesome. So what infrastructure, do you offer? That is
disruptive to centralized decentralized cloud. So so ours is very much a consumer-facing to transplant and passes through to your very consumer-facing. I don't think we have enough of that. I don't think that we have enough things that are workable tools that exist now and really like work to make work. There, the tools and infrastructure that currently available. I love all the infrastructure development is happening within Cosmos, but also I want to see more things go
directly in front of a consumer and say, all right. This is how you can buy right now. This is something you can interact with right now and then that starts to you. No longer make it about this hard thing to explain to your friends and family. Like, when is it that you just put your money into. It's like, no, this is uses. This is a website. Go to that website. Go go hop into a passage experience. Go play the strange Clan game. You just things that you can experience. On the consumer level. I think make it tangible because there's too many people don't even know the
infrastructure behind websites. So it's like they don't need to know that part but they do need to know the utility have a website. What is this doing for me? Because if they don't know that the name they don't interact with it and beat their interaction with it is what's giving it value. So that's that's kind of where we're at. And then yeah, you got 40 validators and so, you know, we've got, we've got like art on the Chain. We've got the start of this to the beginning of the games on the
chain. And so we're seeing you. No hidden terms of disrupting, centralized cloud. Like I mean, we're trying to sort of do, what is cerium? Did, but we want to do it at a, at a larger scale, in terms of like people, right? Where it's just like, you know, a theorem can handle phone number for that as great, and I just can't be a mass-market experience. And we're seeing now, that Altoona has get around to get clogged up as well like relatively quickly, as well. And so, are you really trying to like bring on orders of magnitude broader experience and try to continue that
mission of disrupting the nature of ownership? But like you do make it accessible to light a larger number of people with a much larger number of people. And how do you like, how are you going to do that? I mean the theory and that's you know, pretty much like the the big sort of like pull like, you know, it it's it's such a huge sort of network. So how do you think that you are going to be more efficient? Well, I mean, it's not a be more efficient in aetherium is not the hard part, right? Like a stereo has these really amazing qualities that like efficiency is one of
them. So, you know, that that is sort of like where you know, we try to come in there and fish deficiency, right. And he's abused to write. How do we make, how do we make it easier to get in there? I think if the area and the on-ramp to 3 a.m. Every Financial, you have to find a way to buy tokens means, you're probably going to exchange, which means you probably are like, giving them up a photo of your passport or something, which is just not a great onboarding experience, right? And because we are not weird because we are like stuff first or experience first, we don't have that on ramp
problem cuz we aren't going to get people to defy. We're good. Trying to get people to play games and, and you don't actually need to come in with money to play games and make art. So like, We think that, you know, by having a friendlier onboarding flow and it'll be, if we don't charge Gatsby's on the no work at all. We have a, we don't have a, we have a tutoring in complete smart Contracting system. So we don't need gas in the same way because you you sort of know up front, how much stuff cost you can't, you can't break loose or anything like that. And so I sort of making things much
cheaper and making things much easier to access. We're hopefully going to be able to bring like a similar set of things to to a broader set of people than a theory and was able to do. Right? I think it. This is like really fascinating like, you know, Cutting Edge Lake tip of the spear kind of experience, but it's an expert. It's an Express playground. So, pretty much. I just want to concur with that. But then also like that's the important part of building the user experience because that's what they can bring people into the thief. I
ideas because they interact with banks online, right? And so, if you can operate Finance with banks online, then you can operate on a lot of the device tough but use device off, where do you, find stuff makes sense and then create user experiences where blockchain watching breakthroughs make sense as well. So, I think we have, but one minute left. There. Was there any questions from the audience? How you feeling this morning? I'm feeling great before you guys leave the state.
Awesome more stuff in the sdks additional sdks right now. You can download a hour at our wallet and some of our demo apps on Android. But we're going to get our iOS apps. Out is a big Rebrand coming to the extent that counsels roadmap. Yeah. I'm really, I'm really excited about unity and an unrealistic A's. I'm really excited about you like wallet connect style ability, to use the mobile wallet to sign stuff on desktop experience, as I believe that Chrome extensions with
browser. Extensions are not yet for the user for the broader users. So having like a while to connect style like hey, you got your phone? You're playing your game on your computer. And your phone is dying transaction? Where the key is safe. Like we're going to build that stuff and then Yeah, that's probably enough to them for us. Next on our road map is where our lunch in Marketplace for the first round of entities that we launched. October, watch the marketplace here in December. I should be middle of December and then we got
some stuff coming out with passage. That's up. I can't talk about yet, but we've got some really cool car racing come out with with passage. Just look out for anything that says block house. So I'll just leave that out there. But yep, we can support you. You can go for a sport, you follow you to do diligence and build a game. Download people. You heard it here in first and then Frost just go follow us on strange playing at the strange plan on Twitter them and you can find all the links to
find another place. We're building over there and for you. Hello. Lovely lady. Well, we're going to be launching Crown vets4warriors in a matter of weeks. So you guys can sign up on a Crown Vic. I oh yeah. I love it. Thank you so much for coming to the states. Thank you, for sharing your Alpha.
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